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Single Idea 9615

[filed under theme 4. Formal Logic / F. Set Theory ST / 5. Conceptions of Set / d. Naïve logical sets ]

Full Idea

In current set theory Russell's Paradox is avoided by saying that a condition can only be defined on already existing sets.

Clarification

See Idea 6407 for Russell's Paradox

Gist of Idea

Nowadays conditions are only defined on existing sets

Source

James Robert Brown (Philosophy of Mathematics [1999], Ch. 2)

Book Ref

Brown,James Robert: 'Philosophy of Mathematics' [Routledge 2002], p.19


A Reaction

A response to Idea 9613. This leaves us with no account of how sets are created, so we have the modern notion that absolutely any grouping of daft things is a perfectly good set. The logicians seem to have hijacked common sense.

Related Idea

Idea 9613 Naïve set theory assumed that there is a set for every condition [Brown,JR]


The 33 ideas from James Robert Brown

If a proposition is false, then its negation is true [Brown,JR]
Mathematics is the only place where we are sure we are right [Brown,JR]
The irrationality of root-2 was achieved by intellect, not experience [Brown,JR]
There is an infinity of mathematical objects, so they can't be physical [Brown,JR]
Numbers are not abstracted from particulars, because each number is a particular [Brown,JR]
There are no constructions for many highly desirable results in mathematics [Brown,JR]
'Abstract' nowadays means outside space and time, not concrete, not physical [Brown,JR]
The older sense of 'abstract' is where 'redness' or 'group' is abstracted from particulars [Brown,JR]
Naïve set theory assumed that there is a set for every condition [Brown,JR]
Nowadays conditions are only defined on existing sets [Brown,JR]
The 'iterative' view says sets start with the empty set and build up [Brown,JR]
David's 'Napoleon' is about something concrete and something abstract [Brown,JR]
Empiricists base numbers on objects, Platonists base them on properties [Brown,JR]
To see a structure in something, we must already have the idea of the structure [Brown,JR]
Sets seem basic to mathematics, but they don't suit structuralism [Brown,JR]
'There are two apples' can be expressed logically, with no mention of numbers [Brown,JR]
Mathematics represents the world through structurally similar models. [Brown,JR]
The most brilliant formalist was Hilbert [Brown,JR]
Set theory says that natural numbers are an actual infinity (to accommodate their powerset) [Brown,JR]
Berry's Paradox finds a contradiction in the naming of huge numbers [Brown,JR]
For nomalists there are no numbers, only numerals [Brown,JR]
Given atomism at one end, and a finite universe at the other, there are no physical infinities [Brown,JR]
A term can have not only a sense and a reference, but also a 'computational role' [Brown,JR]
Does some mathematics depend entirely on notation? [Brown,JR]
Definitions should be replaceable by primitives, and should not be creative [Brown,JR]
A flock of birds is not a set, because a set cannot go anywhere [Brown,JR]
Set theory may represent all of mathematics, without actually being mathematics [Brown,JR]
When graphs are defined set-theoretically, that won't cover unlabelled graphs [Brown,JR]
Constructivists say p has no value, if the value depends on Goldbach's Conjecture [Brown,JR]
There is no limit to how many ways something can be proved in mathematics [Brown,JR]
Computers played an essential role in proving the four-colour theorem of maps [Brown,JR]
π is a 'transcendental' number, because it is not the solution of an equation [Brown,JR]
Axioms are either self-evident, or stipulations, or fallible attempts [Brown,JR]