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Single Idea 9642

[filed under theme 4. Formal Logic / F. Set Theory ST / 7. Natural Sets ]

Full Idea

Neither a flock of birds nor a pack of wolves is strictly a set, since a flock can fly south, and a pack can be on the prowl, whereas sets go nowhere and menace no one.

Gist of Idea

A flock of birds is not a set, because a set cannot go anywhere

Source

James Robert Brown (Philosophy of Mathematics [1999], Ch. 7)

Book Ref

Brown,James Robert: 'Philosophy of Mathematics' [Routledge 2002], p.97


A Reaction

To say that the pack menaced you would presumably be to commit the fallacy of composition. Doesn't the number 64 have properties which its set-theoretic elements (whatever we decide they are) will lack?


The 10 ideas with the same theme [which sets are natural, rather than conventional]:

What physical facts could underlie 0 or 1, or very large numbers? [Frege on Mill]
Russell's proposal was that only meaningful predicates have sets as their extensions [Russell, by Orenstein]
Russell's antinomy challenged the idea that any condition can produce a set [Quine]
A class is natural when everybody can spot further members of it [Quinton]
We can have a series with identical members [Tait]
Zermelo allows ur-elements, to enable the widespread application of set-theory [Hallett,M]
Maddy replaces pure sets with just objects and perceived sets of objects [Maddy, by Shapiro]
The master science is physical objects divided into sets [Maddy]
ZFU refers to the physical world, when it talks of 'urelements' [Chihara]
A flock of birds is not a set, because a set cannot go anywhere [Brown,JR]