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Single Idea 9816
[filed under theme 6. Mathematics / B. Foundations for Mathematics / 5. Definitions of Number / c. Fregean numbers
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Full Idea
Frege was operating with a successor relation, rather than a successor function.
Gist of Idea
For Frege, successor was a relation, not a function
Source
report of Gottlob Frege (Grundlagen der Arithmetik (Foundations) [1884]) by Michael Dummett - Frege philosophy of mathematics Ch.2
Book Ref
Dummett,Michael: 'Frege: philosophy of mathematics' [Duckworth 1991], p.13
A Reaction
That is, succession is a given fact, not a construction. 4 may be the successor of 3 in natural numbers, but not in rational or real numbers, so we can't take the relation for granted.
The
46 ideas
with the same theme
[Frege's view of numbers as extensions of classes]:
9992
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The 'extension of a concept' in general may be quantitatively completely indeterminate
[Cantor]
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9949
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There is the concept, the object falling under it, and the extension (a set, which is also an object)
[Frege, by George/Velleman]
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10623
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Frege defined number in terms of extensions of concepts, but needed Basic Law V to explain extensions
[Frege, by Hale/Wright]
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9975
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Frege ignored Cantor's warning that a cardinal set is not just a concept-extension
[Tait on Frege]
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10020
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Frege's biggest error is in not accounting for the senses of number terms
[Hodes on Frege]
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10553
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A number is a class of classes of the same cardinality
[Frege, by Dummett]
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10029
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Numbers need to be objects, to define the extension of the concept of each successor to n
[Frege, by George/Velleman]
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9973
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The number of F's is the extension of the second level concept 'is equipollent with F'
[Frege, by Tait]
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16500
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Frege showed that numbers attach to concepts, not to objects
[Frege, by Wiggins]
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9990
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Frege replaced Cantor's sets as the objects of equinumerosity attributions with concepts
[Frege, by Tait]
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10625
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Frege had a motive to treat numbers as objects, but not a justification
[Hale/Wright on Frege]
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13871
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Frege claims that numbers are objects, as opposed to them being Fregean concepts
[Frege, by Wright,C]
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13872
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Numbers are second-level, ascribing properties to concepts rather than to objects
[Frege, by Wright,C]
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9816
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For Frege, successor was a relation, not a function
[Frege, by Dummett]
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9953
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Numbers are more than just 'second-level concepts', since existence is also one
[Frege, by George/Velleman]
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9954
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"Number of x's such that ..x.." is a functional expression, yielding a name when completed
[Frege, by George/Velleman]
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10139
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Frege gives an incoherent account of extensions resulting from abstraction
[Fine,K on Frege]
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10028
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For Frege the number of F's is a collection of first-level concepts
[Frege, by George/Velleman]
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7738
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Zero is defined using 'is not self-identical', and one by using the concept of zero
[Frege, by Weiner]
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23456
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Frege said logical predication implies classes, which are arithmetical objects
[Frege, by Morris,M]
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17636
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A cardinal number may be defined as a class of similar classes
[Frege, by Russell]
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13887
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Frege started with contextual definition, but then switched to explicit extensional definition
[Frege, by Wright,C]
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13897
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Each number, except 0, is the number of the concept of all of its predecessors
[Frege, by Wright,C]
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9856
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Frege's account of cardinals fails in modern set theory, so they are now defined differently
[Dummett on Frege]
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9902
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Frege's incorrect view is that a number is an equivalence class
[Benacerraf on Frege]
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17814
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The natural number n is the set of n-membered sets
[Frege, by Yourgrau]
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17819
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A set doesn't have a fixed number, because the elements can be seen in different ways
[Yourgrau on Frege]
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17820
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If you can subdivide objects many ways for counting, you can do that to set-elements too
[Yourgrau on Frege]
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16890
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Frege's problem is explaining the particularity of numbers by general laws
[Frege, by Burge]
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8630
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Individual numbers are best derived from the number one, and increase by one
[Frege]
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11029
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'Exactly ten gallons' may not mean ten things instantiate 'gallon'
[Rumfitt on Frege]
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17460
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A statement of number contains a predication about a concept
[Frege]
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10013
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Numerical statements have first-order logical form, so must refer to objects
[Frege, by Hodes]
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18181
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The Number for F is the extension of 'equal to F' (or maybe just F itself)
[Frege]
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18103
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Numbers are objects because they partake in identity statements
[Frege, by Bostock]
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9586
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In a number-statement, something is predicated of a concept
[Frege]
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3331
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If '5' is the set of all sets with five members, that may be circular, and you can know a priori if the set has content
[Benardete,JA on Frege]
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14117
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Numbers are properties of classes
[Russell]
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17817
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Defining 'three' as the principle of collection or property of threes explains set theory definitions
[Yourgrau]
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13894
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Sameness of number is fundamental, not counting, despite children learning that first
[Wright,C]
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12215
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The existence of numbers is not a matter of identities, but of constituents of the world
[Fine,K]
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18182
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The extension of concepts is not important to me
[Maddy]
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18177
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In the ZFC hierarchy it is impossible to form Frege's set of all three-element sets
[Maddy]
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8297
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Numbers are universals, being sets whose instances are sets of appropriate cardinality
[Lowe]
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17902
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A successor is the union of a set with its singleton
[George/Velleman]
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17461
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Some 'how many?' answers are not predications of a concept, like 'how many gallons?'
[Rumfitt]
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