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Single Idea 12591

[filed under theme 19. Language / F. Communication / 6. Interpreting Language / a. Translation ]

Full Idea

If one cannot think in a language, one has not yet mastered it. A symbol system used only for communication, like Morse code, is not a language.

Gist of Idea

Mastery of a language requires thinking, and not just communication

Source

Gilbert Harman ((Nonsolipsistic) Conceptual Role Semantics [1987], 12.1.2)

Book Ref

Harman,Gilbert: 'Reasoning Meaning and Mind' [OUP 1999], p.208


A Reaction

This invites the question of someone who has mastered thinking, but has no idea how to communicate. No doubt we might construct a machine with something like that ability. I think it might support Harman's claim.


The 6 ideas with the same theme [expressing meanings of one language in another language]:

All translation loses some content (but language does not create reality) [Carnap]
We translate by means of proposition constituents, not by whole propositions [Wittgenstein]
Translation is too flimsy a notion to support theories of cultural incommensurability [Quine]
Mastery of a language requires thinking, and not just communication [Harman]
Early Quine says all beliefs could be otherwise, but later he said we would assume mistranslation [O'Grady]
Holism says language can't be translated; the expressibility hypothesis says everything can [Hofweber]