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Single Idea 22143

[filed under theme 9. Objects / F. Identity among Objects / 1. Concept of Identity ]

Full Idea

To be really the same excludes being really other, but does not exclude being other modally or mentally.

Gist of Idea

Identity does not exclude possible or imagined difference

Source

report of Francisco Suárez (Disputationes metaphysicae [1597], 7.65) by Stephen Boulter - Why Medieval Philosophy Matters 4

Book Ref

Boulter,Stephen: 'Why Medieval Philosophy Matters' [Bloomsbury 2019], p.89


A Reaction

So the statue and the clay are identical, but they could become separate, or be imagined as separate.


The 18 ideas from Francisco Suárez

Substances are incomplete unless they have modes [Suárez, by Pasnau]
Forms must rule over faculties and accidents, and are the source of action and unity [Suárez]
Partial forms of leaf and fruit are united in the whole form of the tree [Suárez]
The best support for substantial forms is the co-ordinated unity of a natural being [Suárez]
Other things could occupy the same location as an angel [Suárez]
We can get at the essential nature of 'quantity' by knowing bulk and extension [Suárez]
We only know essences through non-essential features, esp. those closest to the essence [Suárez]
There are entities, and then positive 'modes', modifying aspects outside the thing's essence [Suárez]
A mode determines the state and character of a quantity, without adding to it [Suárez]
Identity does not exclude possible or imagined difference [Suárez, by Boulter]
Minor Real distinction: B needs A, but A doesn't need B [Suárez, by Boulter]
Major Real distinction: A and B have independent existences [Suárez, by Boulter]
Real Essential distinction: A and B are of different natural kinds [Suárez, by Boulter]
Conceptual/Mental distinction: one thing can be conceived of in two different ways [Suárez, by Boulter]
Modal distinction: A isn't B or its property, but still needs B [Suárez, by Boulter]
Scholastics assess possibility by what has actually happened in reality [Suárez, by Boulter]
The old 'influx' view of causation says it is a flow of accidental properties from A to B [Suárez, by Jolley]
Only natural kinds and their members have real essences [Suárez, by Cover/O'Leary-Hawthorne]