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Single Idea 11091

[filed under theme 9. Objects / E. Objects over Time / 8. Continuity of Rivers ]

Full Idea

You can bathe in the same river twice, but not in the same river stage.

Gist of Idea

You can bathe in the same river twice, but not in the same river stage

Source

comment on Heraclitus (fragments/reports [c.500 BCE]) by Willard Quine - Identity, Ostension, and Hypostasis 1

Book Ref

Quine,Willard: 'From a Logical Point of View' [Harper and Row 1963], p.65


A Reaction

This seems to make Quine a 'perdurantist', committed to time-slices of objects, rather than whole objects enduring through change.


The 36 ideas from Heraclitus

Reason is eternal, but men are foolish [Heraclitus]
If everything is and isn't then everything is true, and a midway between true and false makes everything false [Aristotle on Heraclitus]
Everything gives way, and nothing stands fast [Heraclitus]
You can bathe in the same river twice, but not in the same river stage [Quine on Heraclitus]
The sayings of Heraclitus are still correct, if we replace 'fire' with 'energy' [Heraclitus, by Heisenberg]
Heraclitus says that at some time everything becomes fire [Heraclitus, by Aristotle]
Heraclitus said fire could be transformed to create the other lower elements [Heraclitus, by Diog. Laertius]
Heraclitus said sometimes everything becomes fire [Heraclitus, by Aristotle]
All things are in a state of motion [Heraclitus, by Aristotle]
Good and evil are the same thing [Heraclitus, by Aristotle]
When we sleep, reason closes down as the senses do [Heraclitus, by Sext.Empiricus]
Heraclitus says intelligence draws on divine reason [Heraclitus, by Sext.Empiricus]
Logos is the source of everything, and my theories separate and explain each nature [Heraclitus]
Logos is common to all, but most people live as if they have a private understanding [Heraclitus]
If happiness is bodily pleasure, then oxen are happy when they have vetch to eat [Heraclitus]
Purifying yourself with blood is as crazy as using mud to wash off mud [Heraclitus]
In their ignorance people pray to statues, which is like talking to a house [Heraclitus]
Beautiful harmony comes from things that are in opposition to one another [Heraclitus]
Donkeys prefer chaff to gold [Heraclitus]
If one does not hope, one will not find the unhoped-for, since nothing leads to it [Heraclitus]
The cosmos is eternal not created, and is an ever-living and changing fire [Heraclitus]
If flux is continuous, then lack of change can't be a property, so everything changes in every possible way [Plato on Heraclitus]
Men who love wisdom must be inquirers into very many things indeed [Heraclitus]
The people should fight for the law as if for their city-wall [Heraclitus]
Reason tells us that all things are one [Heraclitus]
A thing can have opposing tensions but be in harmony, like a lyre [Heraclitus]
The hidden harmony is stronger than the visible [Heraclitus]
Sea water is life-giving for fish, but not for people [Heraclitus]
It is hard to fight against emotion, but harder still to fight against pleasure [Heraclitus]
It is not possible to step twice into the same river [Heraclitus]
To God (though not to humans) all things are beautiful and good and just [Heraclitus]
Senses are no use if the soul is corrupt [Heraclitus]
Health, feeding and rest are only made good by disease, hunger and weariness [Heraclitus]
Everyone has the potential for self-knowledge and sound thinking [Heraclitus]
For man character is destiny [Heraclitus]
A mixed drink separates if it is not stirred [Heraclitus]