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Single Idea 12835

[filed under theme 9. Objects / B. Unity of Objects / 3. Unity Problems / b. Cat and its tail ]

Full Idea

The cat is 'Tibbles' with a tail; 'Tib' is Tibbles after the loss of the tail. 1) Tibbles isn't Tib at t; 2) Tibbles is Tib at t'; 3) Tibbles at t is Tibbles at t'; 4) Tib at t is Tib at t'; so 5) Tibbles at t is Tib at t (contradicting 1). What's wrong?

Gist of Idea

Does Tibbles remain the same cat when it loses its tail?

Source

Peter Simons (Parts [1987], 3.3)

Book Ref

Simons,Peter: 'Parts: a Study in Ontology' [OUP 1987], p.119


A Reaction

[The example is in Wiggins 1979, from Geach, from William of Sherwood] Simons catalogues nine assumptions which are being made to produce the contradiction. 1) rests on Leibniz's law. Simons says two objects are occupying Tibbles.


The 8 ideas with the same theme [objects contained within other objects]:

Dion and Theon coexist, but Theon lacks a foot. If Dion loses a foot, he ousts Theon? [Chrysippus, by Philo of Alexandria]
If cats are vague, we deny that the many cats are one, or deny that the one cat is many [Lewis]
Tib goes out of existence when the tail is lost, because Tib was never the 'cat' [Burke,M, by Sider]
A CAR and its major PART can become identical, yet seem to have different properties [Gallois]
If Tib is all of Tibbles bar her tail, when Tibbles loses her tail, two different things become one [Sider]
Are sortals spatially maximal - so no cat part is allowed to be a cat? [Hawley]
Does Tibbles remain the same cat when it loses its tail? [Simons]
Tibbles isn't Tib-plus-tail, because Tibbles can survive its loss, but the sum can't [Simons]