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[filed under theme 19. Language / F. Communication / 1. Rhetoric ]

Full Idea

How wonderful is the power of eloquence! It enables us to learn and to teach. We use it to exhort and persuade, to comfort the unfortunate, to distract the timid and calm the passionate. It unites us in law and society, and raises us from savagery.

Gist of Idea

Eloquence educates, exhorts, comforts, distracts and unites us, and raises us from savagery

Source

M. Tullius Cicero (On the Nature of the Gods ('De natura deorum') [c.44 BCE], 2.147)

Book Ref

'The Stoics Reader', ed/tr. Inwood,B/Gerson,L.P. [Hackett 2008], p.76


A Reaction

[compressed] Cicero would have been well aware of the doubts about rhetoric felt by Socrates (and possibly Plato). Cicero was probably the greatest Roman orator.


The 24 ideas with the same theme [use of language for emotional influence]:

Truth is not beautiful; beautiful speech is not truthful [Laozi (Lao Tzu)]
People who control others with fluent language often end up being hated [Kongzi (Confucius)]
Destroy seriousness with laughter, and laughter with seriousness [Gorgias]
Gorgias says rhetoric is the best of arts, because it enslaves without using force [Gorgias, by Plato]
Rhetoric can produce conviction, but not educate people about right and wrong [Plato]
Rhetoric is irrational about its means and its ends [Plato]
An excellent speech seems to imply a knowledge of the truth in the mind of the speaker [Plato]
Only a good philosopher can be a good speaker [Plato]
'Phaedrus' pioneers the notion of philosophical rhetoric [Lawson-Tancred on Plato]
The 'Republic' is a great work of rhetorical theory [Lawson-Tancred on Plato]
The question of whether or not to persuade comes before the science of persuasion [Plato]
Plato's whole philosophy may be based on being duped by reification - a figure of speech [Benardete,JA on Plato]
Rhetoric now enables good speakers to become popular leaders [Aristotle]
Rhetoric is a political offshoot of dialectic and ethics [Aristotle]
Rhetoric has three types, four modes, and four sections [Stoic school, by Diog. Laertius]
Oratory and philosophy are closely allied; orators borrow from philosophy, and ornament it [Cicero]
Eloquence educates, exhorts, comforts, distracts and unites us, and raises us from savagery [Cicero]
We only want to know things so that we can talk about them [Pascal]
It is essential that wise people learn to express their wisdom, possibly even as foolishness [Nietzsche]
Great orators lead their arguments, rather than following them [Nietzsche]
Reasoning aims not at the understanding of objects, but at the desire to give beautiful speeches [Roochnik]
If relativism is the correct account of human values, then rhetoric is more important than reasoning [Roochnik]
Often socialising people is the only way to persuade them [Kusch]
Rhetoric is built into language, so it cannot be stripped from philosophy [Bowie]