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Single Idea 18677

[filed under theme 22. Metaethics / B. Value / 1. Nature of Value / f. Ultimate value ]

Full Idea

Many believe that final values can be extrinsic: objects which are valuable for their own sake partly thanks to their relations to other objects. ...This might depend on the value of other things...or an object's relational properties.

Gist of Idea

A thing may have final value, which is still derived from other values, or from relations

Source

Francesco Orsi (Value Theory [2015], 2.3)

Book Ref

Orsi,Francesco: 'Value Theory' [Bloomsbury 2015], p.33


A Reaction

It strikes me that virtually nothing (or even absolutely nothing) has final value in total isolation from other things (Moore's 'isolation test'). Values arise within a tangled network of relations. Your final value is my instrumental value.


The 14 ideas from Francesco Orsi

Value-maker concepts (such as courageous or elegant) simultaneously describe and evaluate [Orsi]
The '-able' concepts (like enviable) say this thing deserves a particular response [Orsi]
Truths about value entail normative truths about actions or attitudes [Orsi]
Values from reasons has the 'wrong kind of reason' problem - admiration arising from fear [Orsi]
Values can be normative in the Fitting Attitude account, where 'good' means fitting favouring [Orsi]
The Buck-Passing view of normative values says other properties are reasons for the value [Orsi]
A thing may have final value, which is still derived from other values, or from relations [Orsi]
To avoid misunderstandings supervenience is often expressed negatively: no A-change without B-change [Orsi]
Things are only valuable if something makes it valuable, and we can ask for the reason [Orsi]
A complex value is not just the sum of the values of the parts [Orsi]
Trichotomy Thesis: comparable values must be better, worse or the same [Orsi]
Rather than requiring an action, a reason may 'entice' us, or be 'eligible', or 'justify' it [Orsi]
Final value is favoured for its own sake, and personal value for someone's sake [Orsi]
The Fitting Attitude view says values are fitting or reasonable, and values are just byproducts [Orsi]