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Single Idea 20005

[filed under theme 24. Political Theory / A. Basis of a State / 4. Original Position / b. Veil of ignorance ]

Full Idea

I do not believe that anyone of [that small part of a nation that is rich and voluptuous] would submit to a lottery determining which part of the nation would be free, and which slave.

Gist of Idea

The rich would never submit to a lottery deciding which part of their society should be slaves

Source

Baron de Montesquieu (The Spirit of the Laws (rev. 1757) [1748], 15.09)

Book Ref

Montesquieu,Baron de: 'Selected Political Writings', ed/tr. Richter,Melvin [Hackett 1990], p.206


A Reaction

Wonderful! This is exactly Rawls's 'initial position' and 'veil of ignorance'. It is used here to deconstruct implausible arguments in favour of slavery.


The 8 ideas with the same theme [choosing a society in ignorance of one's role]:

The rich would never submit to a lottery deciding which part of their society should be slaves [Montesquieu]
Choose justice principles in ignorance of your own social situation [Rawls]
You can't distribute goods from behind a veil, because their social meaning is unclear [Walzer, by Tuckness/Wolf]
The veil of ignorance is only needed because people have bad motivations [Kekes]
The veil of ignorance encourages neutral interests, but not a wider view of values [Sen]
The principles Rawls arrives at do not just conform to benevolence, but also result from choices [Oksala]
The veil of ignorance ensures both fairness and unanimity [Tuckness/Wolf]
People with strong prior beliefs would have nothing to do with a veil of ignorance [Charvet]