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Single Idea 5269

[filed under theme 22. Metaethics / C. The Good / 1. Goodness / f. Good as pleasure ]

Full Idea

It is clear, then, that pleasure is not the Good, and that not every pleasure is desirable.

Gist of Idea

Pleasure is not the Good, and not every pleasure is desirable

Source

Aristotle (Nicomachean Ethics [c.334 BCE], 1174a08)

Book Ref

Aristotle: 'Ethics (Nicomachean)', ed/tr. ThomsonJ A K/TredennickH [Penguin 1976], p.318

A Reaction

This is the culmination of a length discussion. Despite all of Aristotle's efforts, it may well be impossible to demonstrate that pleasure is not the Good. All the rivals, such as knowledge, intelligence, sight, excellence etc. give great pleasure.

The 16 ideas with the same theme [pleasure is the main good in life]:

415 If happiness is bodily pleasure, then oxen are happy when they have vetch to eat [Heraclitus]
1537 Happiness is identifying and separating the pleasures [Democritus, by Stobaeus]
4322 In slaking our thirst the goodness of the action and the pleasure are clearly separate [Plato]
136 Good should be the aim of pleasant activity, not the other way round [Plato]
2070 Even people who think pleasure is the good admit that there are bad pleasures [Plato]
94 Pleasure is better with the addition of intelligence, so pleasure is not the good [Plato, by Aristotle]
23 The masses believe, not unreasonably, that the good is pleasure [Aristotle]
5269 Pleasure is not the Good, and not every pleasure is desirable [Aristotle]
1833 Pleasure is the first good in life [Epicurus]
14057 All pleasures are good, but it is not always right to choose them [Epicurus]
14058 Pleasure is the goal, but as lack of pain and calm mind, not as depraved or greedy pleasure [Epicurus]
1840 Pleasure is the chief good because it is the most natural, especially for animals [Epicurus, by Diog. Laertius]
1777 Pleasure is not the good, because there are disgraceful pleasures [Chrysippus, by Diog. Laertius]
5973 Justice can be preserved if pleasure is a good, but not if it is the goal [Chrysippus, by Plutarch]
21870 Music is good for a melancholic, bad for a mourner, and indifferent to the deaf [Spinoza]
3256 Pain doesn't have a further property of badness; it gives a reason for its avoidance [Nagel]