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Single Idea 13867

[filed under theme 6. Mathematics / A. Nature of Mathematics / 4. Using Numbers / d. Counting via concepts ]

Full Idea

The invitation to number the instances of some non-sortal concept is intelligible only if it is relativised to a sortal.

Gist of Idea

Instances of a non-sortal concept can only be counted relative to a sortal concept

Source

Crispin Wright (Frege's Concept of Numbers as Objects [1983], 1.i)

Book Ref

Wright,Crispin: 'Frege's Conception of Numbers' [Scots Philosophical Monographs 1983], p.3


A Reaction

I take this to be an essentially Fregean idea, as when we count the boots when we have decided whether they fall under the concept 'boot' or the concept 'pair'. I also take this to be the traditional question 'what units are you using'?

Related Idea

Idea 13865 'Sortal' concepts show kinds, use indefinite articles, and require grasping identities [Wright,C]


The 12 ideas with the same theme [grouping by concept for counting]:

Frege's 'isolation' could be absence of overlap, or drawing conceptual boundaries [Frege, by Koslicki]
Non-arbitrary division means that what falls under the concept cannot be divided into more of the same [Frege, by Koslicki]
Our concepts decide what is countable, as in seeing the leaves of the tree, or the foliage [Frege, by Koslicki]
A concept creating a unit must isolate and unify what falls under it [Frege]
Frege says counting is determining what number belongs to a given concept [Frege, by Koslicki]
Are 'word token' and 'word type' different sorts of countable objects, or two ways of counting? [Geach, by Perry]
Counting 'coin in this box' may have coin as the unit, with 'in this box' merely as the scope [Ayers]
If counting needs a sortal, what of things which fall under two sortals? [Ayers]
Maybe the concept needed under which things coincide must also yield a principle of counting [Wiggins]
The sortal needed for identities may not always be sufficient to support counting [Wiggins]
Instances of a non-sortal concept can only be counted relative to a sortal concept [Wright,C]
We struggle to count branches and waves because our concepts lack clear boundaries [Koslicki]