structure for 'Existence'    |     alphabetical list of themes    |     unexpand these ideas

7. Existence / C. Structure of Existence / 8. Stuff / b. Mixtures

[general masses with more than one ingredient]

7 ideas
If a mixture does not contain measure and proportion, it is corrupted and destroyed [Plato]
     Full Idea: Any kind of mixture that does not ...possess measure or the nature of proportion will necessarily corrupt its ingredients and most of all itself. For there would be no blending in such cases but really an unconnected medley, and ruin what contains it.
     From: Plato (Philebus [c.353 BCE], 64d)
     A reaction: My guess is that Plato is thinking of the decay of living things when they die, losing the proportions of psuché, and then applying this to the unity of inanimate objects as well. One might compare Leibniz's monads.
Any mixture which lacks measure and proportion doesn't even count as a mixture at all [Plato]
     Full Idea: Any blend [mixture] which does not have measure or the nature of proportion in any way whatsoever, of necessity destroys both its ingredients and, primarily, itself. It is truly no blend at all, but a kind of unblended disaster.
     From: Plato (Philebus [c.353 BCE], 64e)
     A reaction: Obviously there can be chaotic mixtures, but I guess Plato is picking out mixtures about which we can say something
Magnetic and gravity fields can occupy the same place without merging [Harré/Madden]
     Full Idea: The magnetic and the gravitation field can occupy all the same places without merging.
     From: Harré,R./Madden,E.H. (Causal Powers [1975], 9.IV)
     A reaction: We can divide stuff into two classes, then, according to whether they usually merge if coextensive in space. Oil and water can be mixed, but eventually separate again.
Mixtures disappear if nearly all of the mixture is one ingredient [Simons]
     Full Idea: If a cupful of dirty water is mixed evenly with a ton of earth, no dirty water remains, and the same goes if we mix it evenly with a lake of clean water.
     From: Peter Simons (Parts [1987], 6.2)
     A reaction: This means that a mixture is a vague entity, subject to the sorites paradox. If the dirt was cyanide, we would consider the water to be polluted by it down to a much lower level.
A mixture can have different qualities from its ingredients. [Simons]
     Full Idea: The qualities of a mixture need not be those of its ingredients in isolation.
     From: Peter Simons (Parts [1987], 6.2)
     A reaction: It depends on what you mean by a quality. Presumably we can give a reductive account of the qualities of the mixture, as long as no reaction has taken place. The taste of a salad is just the sum of its parts.
We shouldn't think some water retains its identity when it is mixed with air [Laycock]
     Full Idea: Suppose that water, qua vapour, mixes with the atmosphere. Is there any abstract metaphysical principle, other than that of atomism, which implies that water must, in any such process, retain its identity? That claim seems indefensible.
     From: Henry Laycock (Words without Objects [2006], 1.2 n22)
     A reaction: It can't be right that some stuff always loses its identity in a mixture, if the mixture was in a closed vessel, and then separated again. Dispersion is what destroys the identity, not mixing.
In mixtures, the four elements ceased to exist, replaced by a mixed body with a form [Pasnau]
     Full Idea: The standard view was that in a mixture there is only the mixed body and its substantial form (gold). There are no further substantial forms of the elements, because the elements do not actually exist within the body.
     From: Robert Pasnau (Metaphysical Themes 1274-1671 [2011], 22.3)
     A reaction: This seems to me to be the key idea that was overthrown in the seventeenth century, so that corpuscular matter kept aspects of its ingredients, which science could then investigate. With the substantial form, investigation seemed impossible.