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28. God / C. Attitudes to God / 3. Deism

[belief in a remote and detached God]

5 ideas
Am I a God afar off, and not a God close at hand? [Jeremiah]
     Full Idea: Am I a God afar off, and not a God close at hand? Do I not fill heaven and earth?
     From: Jeremiah (24: Book of Jeremiah [c.570 BCE], 23:23), quoted by Clare Carlisle - Kierkegaard: a guide for the perplexed 3
     A reaction: I assume this was often quoted by eighteenth century divines, against the rise of deism.
Clearly the gods ignore human affairs, or they would have given us justice [Thrasymachus]
     Full Idea: The gods pay no attention to human affairs; if they did, they would not have ignored justice, which is the greatest good for men; for we see that men do not act with justice.
     From: Thrasymachus (fragments/reports [c.426 BCE], B8), quoted by Hermias - Notes on Plato's 'Phaedrus' 239.22
If the gods are non-existent or indifferent, why bother to deceive them? [Plato]
     Full Idea: If there are no gods or if they care nothing for human affairs, why should we bother to deceive them?
     From: Plato (The Republic [c.374 BCE], 365d)
     A reaction: There is incipient deism here, as well as atheism.
God does not intervene in heavenly movements, but is beyond all action and perfectly happy [Epicurus]
     Full Idea: Let us beware of making the Deity interpose in heavenly movements, for that being we ought to suppose exempt from all occupation and perfectly happy.
     From: Epicurus (Letter to Pythocles [c.292 BCE]), quoted by Diogenes Laertius - Lives of Eminent Philosophers 10.25
Gods are tranquil and aloof, and have no need of or interest in us [Lucretius]
     Full Idea: The nature of deity is to enjoy immortal existence in utter tranquillity, aloof and detached from our affairs. It is free from all pain and peril, strong in its own resources, exempt from any need of us, indifferent to our merits and immune from anger.
     From: Lucretius (On the Nature of the Universe [c.60 BCE], II.652)
     A reaction: This seems to be the seed of late seventeenth century deism - the idea of a Creator who is now absent, and ignores our prayers. At that time 'Epicurean' became a synonym for atheist, but Epicureans never quite reached that point.