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Single Idea 21347

[catalogued under 8. Modes of Existence / A. Relations / 2. Internal Relations]

Full Idea

When you say Simmias is taller than Socrates but shorter than Phaedo, so you mean there is in Simmias both tallness and shortness? - I do. ...But surely he is not taller than Socrates because he is Simmias but because of the tallness he happens to have?

Gist of Idea

If Simmias is taller than Socrates, that isn't a feature that is just in Simmias

Source

Plato (Phaedo [c.382 BCE], 102b-c)

A Reaction

He adds that both people must be cited. This appears to be what we now call a rejection relative height as an 'internal' relation, which is it would presumably be if it was a feature of one or of both men.

Book Reference

Plato: 'Complete Works', ed/tr. Cooper,John M. [Hackett 1997], p.88

Related Idea

Idea 21349 Two people are indirectly related by height; the direct relation is internal, between properties [Heil]