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### Single Idea 17820

#### [catalogued under 6. Mathematics / B. Foundations for Mathematics / 5. Definitions of Number / c. Fregean numbers]

Full Idea

If we are allowed in the case of sets to construe the number question as 'really': How many (elements)?, then we could just as well construe Frege's famous question about the deck of cards as: How many (cards)?

Gist of Idea

If you can subdivide objects many ways for counting, you can do that to set-elements too

Source

comment on Gottlob Frege (Grundlagen der Arithmetik (Foundations) [1884]) by Palle Yourgrau - Sets, Aggregates and Numbers 'New Problem'

Book Reference

'Philosophy of Mathematics: anthology', ed/tr. Jacquette,Dale [Blackwell 2002], p.358

A Reaction

My view is that counting is not entirely relative to the concept employed, but that the world imposes objects on us which thus impose their concepts and their counting. This is 'natural', but we can then counter nature with pragmatics and whimsy.

Related Ideas

Idea 17819
A set doesn't have a fixed number, because the elements can be seen in different ways **[Yourgrau on Frege]**

Idea 17821
You can ask all sorts of numerical questions about any one given set **[Yourgrau]**