Ideas from 'Thus Spake Zarathustra' by Friedrich Nietzsche [1884], by Theme Structure

[found in 'Thus Spake Zarathustra' by Nietzsche,Friedrich (ed/tr Hollingdale,R.J.) [Penguin 1969,0-14-044118-2]].

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1. Philosophy / A. Wisdom / 3. Wisdom Deflated
But what is the reasoning of the body, that it requires the wisdom you seek?
                        Full Idea: There is more reason in your body than in your best wisdom. For who knows for what purpose your body requires precisely your best wisdom?
                        From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Thus Spake Zarathustra [1884], 1.05)
                        A reaction: Lovely question. For years I've paid lip-service to wisdom as the rough aim of all philosophy. Not quite knowing what wisdom is doesn't bother me, but knowing why I want wisdom certainly does, especially after this idea.
1. Philosophy / D. Nature of Philosophy / 8. Humour
Reject wisdom that lacks laughter
                        Full Idea: Let that wisdom be false to us that brought no laughter with it!
                        From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Thus Spake Zarathustra [1884], 3.12.23)
3. Truth / A. Truth Problems / 7. Falsehood
To love truth, you must know how to lie
                        Full Idea: Inability to lie is far from being love of truth. ....He who cannot lie does not know what truth is.
                        From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Thus Spake Zarathustra [1884], 4.13.9)
16. Persons / B. Nature of the Self / 7. Self and Body / a. Self needs body
The powerful self behind your thoughts and feelings is your body
                        Full Idea: Behind your thoughts and feelings stands a powerful commander, an unknown wise man - he is called a self. He lives in your body; he is your body.
                        From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Thus Spake Zarathustra [1884], I.4), quoted by Kevin Aho - Existentialism: an introduction 5 'Creature'
                        A reaction: I find Nietzsche's view of the self very congenial, though I tend to see the self as certain central functions of the brain. The brain is enmeshed in the body (as in the location of pains).
16. Persons / D. Continuity of the Self / 3. Reference of 'I'
Forget the word 'I'; 'I' is performed by the intelligence of your body
                        Full Idea: You say 'I' and you are proud of this word. But greater than this - although you will not believe in it - is your body and its great intelligence, which does not say 'I' but performs 'I'.
                        From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Thus Spake Zarathustra [1884], 1.05)
                        A reaction: I'm not sure if I understand this, but I offer it as a candidate for the most profound idea ever articulated about personal identity.
20. Action / B. Preliminaries of Action / 2. Willed Action / a. Will to Act
The will is constantly frustrated by the past
                        Full Idea: Powerless against that which has been done, the will is an angry spectator of all things past. The will cannot will backwards; that it cannot break time and time's desire - that is the will's most lonely affliction.
                        From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Thus Spake Zarathustra [1884], 2.20)
22. Metaethics / A. Ethics Foundations / 2. Source of Ethics / d. Biological ethics
We created meanings, to maintain ourselves
                        Full Idea: Man first implanted values into things to maintain himself - he first created the meaning of things, a human meaning!
                        From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Thus Spake Zarathustra [1884], 1.16)
22. Metaethics / A. Ethics Foundations / 2. Source of Ethics / f. Übermensch
The noble man wants new virtues; the good man preserves what is old
                        Full Idea: The noble man wants to create new things and a new virtue. The good man wants the old things and that the old things shall be preserved.
                        From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Thus Spake Zarathustra [1884], 1.09)
                        A reaction: There is a limit to how many plausible virtues the noble men can come up with. We may already have run out. Are we going to have to re-run the Iliad?
22. Metaethics / B. Value / 2. Values / g. Love
We only really love children and work
                        Full Idea: One loves from the very heart only one's child and one's work.
                        From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Thus Spake Zarathustra [1884], 3.03)
22. Metaethics / C. The Good / 2. Happiness / c. Value of happiness
I want my work, not happiness!
                        Full Idea: Do I aspire after happiness? I aspire after my work!
                        From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Thus Spake Zarathustra [1884], 4.20)
23. Ethics / C. Virtue Theory / 3. Virtues / a. Virtues
Virtues can destroy one another, through jealousy
                        Full Idea: Every virtue is jealous of the others, and jealousy is a terrible thing. Even virtues can be destroyed through jealousy.
                        From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Thus Spake Zarathustra [1884], 1.07)
                        A reaction: How much more subtle and plausible than the picture of accumulating virtues, like medals! Zarathustra says it is best to have just one virtue.
23. Ethics / C. Virtue Theory / 4. External Goods / c. Wealth
People now find both wealth and poverty too much of a burden
                        Full Idea: Nobody grows rich or poor any more: both are too much of a burden.
                        From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Thus Spake Zarathustra [1884], 1.01)
                        A reaction: True. Most people I know are just puzzled by people who actually seem to want to be extremely wealthy.
23. Ethics / C. Virtue Theory / 4. External Goods / d. Friendship
If you want friends, you must be a fighter
                        Full Idea: If you want a friend, you must be willing to wage war for him: and to wage war, you must be capable of being an enemy.
                        From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Thus Spake Zarathustra [1884], 1.15)
23. Ethics / F. Existentialism / 2. Nihilism
The greatest experience possible is contempt for your own happiness, reason and virtue
                        Full Idea: What is the greatest thing you can experience? It is the hour of the great contempt. The hour in which even your happiness grows loathsome to you, and your reason and your virtue also.
                        From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Thus Spake Zarathustra [1884], 1.01)
                        A reaction: This would be a transient state for Nietzsche, in which you realise the hollowness of those traditional ideas, and begin to seek something else.
24. Political Theory / A. Basis of a State / 1. A People / c. A unified people
An enduring people needs its own individual values
                        Full Idea: No people could live without evaluating; but if it wishes to maintain itself it must not evaluate as its neighbour evaluates.
                        From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Thus Spake Zarathustra [1884], 1.16)
                        A reaction: Political philosophers say plenty about a 'people', but little about what unifies them, or about what keeps one people distinct from another. Most people's are proud of their local values.
24. Political Theory / B. Nature of a State / 3. Constitutions
The state coldly claims that it is the people, but that is a lie
                        Full Idea: The state is the coldest of all cold monsters. Coldly it lies, too; and this lie creeps from its mouth: 'I, the state, am the people'. It is a lie!
                        From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Thus Spake Zarathustra [1884], 1.12)
                        A reaction: This strikes me as just as true even after everyone gets the vote. Rulers can't help gradually forgetting about the people.
25. Social Practice / A. Freedoms / 5. Freedom of lifestyle
Saints want to live as they desire, or not to live at all
                        Full Idea: 'To live as I desire to live or not to live at all': that is what I want, that is what the most saintly man wants.
                        From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Thus Spake Zarathustra [1884], 4.09)
                        A reaction: [spoken by Zarathustra]
25. Social Practice / D. Justice / 3. Punishment / b. Retribution for crime
Whenever we have seen suffering, we have wanted the revenge of punishment
                        Full Idea: The spirit of revenge: my friends, that, up to now, has been mankind's chief concern; and where there was suffering, there was always supposed to be punishment.
                        From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Thus Spake Zarathustra [1884], 2.20)
25. Social Practice / F. Life Issues / 5. Sexual Morality
Man and woman are deeply strange to one another!
                        Full Idea: Who has fully conceived how strange man and woman are to one another!
                        From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Thus Spake Zarathustra [1884], 3.10.2)
28. God / A. Divine Nature / 2. Divine Nature
I can only believe in a God who can dance
                        Full Idea: I should believe only in a God who understood how to dance.
                        From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Thus Spake Zarathustra [1884], 1.08)
28. God / C. Attitudes to God / 5. Atheism
Not being a god is insupportable, so there are no gods!
                        Full Idea: If there were gods, how could I endure not to be a god! Therefore there are no gods. ...For what would there to be create if gods - existed!
                        From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Thus Spake Zarathustra [1884], 2.02)
                        A reaction: [Zarathustra says this, not Nietzsche!]
29. Religion / D. Religious Issues / 2. Immortality / d. Heaven
Heaven was invented by the sick and the dying
                        Full Idea: It was the sick and dying who despised the body and the earth and invented the things of heaven and the redeeming drops of blood.
                        From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Thus Spake Zarathustra [1884], 1.04)
We don't want heaven; now that we are men, we want the kingdom of earth
                        Full Idea: We certainly do not want to enter into the kingdom of heaven: we have become men, so we want the kingdom of earth.
                        From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Thus Spake Zarathustra [1884], 4.18.2)