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1. Philosophy / D. Nature of Philosophy / 1. Philosophy
What we cannot speak about we must pass over in silence [Wittgenstein]
     Full Idea: What we cannot speak about we must pass over in silence.
     From: Ludwig Wittgenstein (Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus [1921], 7)
     A reaction: This is either a boring truism, or points towards some sort of verificationism (where we can speak meaninglessly). Compare Ideas 7973 and 6870.
1. Philosophy / D. Nature of Philosophy / 3. Philosophy Defined
I say (contrary to Wittgenstein) that philosophy expresses what we thought we must be silent about [Ansell Pearson on Wittgenstein]
     Full Idea: I recognise the incredible force of Wittgenstein's closing statement in the 'Tractatus', but I hold the opposite view: philosophy exists to give expression to that which we think we can only remain silent about.
     From: comment on Ludwig Wittgenstein (Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus [1921], 7) by Keith Ansell Pearson - Interview with Baggini and Stangroom p.267
     A reaction: A wonderful remark, with which I totally agree. Compare Idea 1596. I think it is just a fact that philosophers are able to articulate a huge number of ideas which other intelligent people find very interesting but on which they are unable to speak.
1. Philosophy / D. Nature of Philosophy / 6. Hopes for Philosophy
If a question can be framed at all, it is also possible to answer it [Wittgenstein]
     Full Idea: If a question can be framed at all, it is also possible to answer it.
     From: Ludwig Wittgenstein (Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus [1921], 6.5)
     A reaction: Just the sort of unsubstantiated metaphysical claim that philosophers are always making.
1. Philosophy / D. Nature of Philosophy / 7. Despair over Philosophy
The 'Tractatus' is a masterpiece of anti-philosophy [Badiou on Wittgenstein]
     Full Idea: The 'Tractatus' is without doubt one of the masterpieces of anti-philosophy.
     From: comment on Ludwig Wittgenstein (Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus [1921]) by Alain Badiou - Mathematics and Philosophy: grand and little p.16
     A reaction: French philosophers do love making wicked remarks like that. It seems that analysis is anti-philosophy, or 'little' philosophy in Badiou's parlance.
This work solves all the main problems, but that has little value [Wittgenstein]
     Full Idea: I believe myself to have found, on all essential points, the final solution of the problems. ….and this work shows how little is achieved when these problems are solved.
     From: Ludwig Wittgenstein (Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus [1921], Pref)
     A reaction: This is LW's deep pessimism about the value of philosophy, right from the start. You can only idolise LW if you agree with him on this.
Once you understand my book you will see that it is nonsensical [Wittgenstein]
     Full Idea: Anyone who understands me eventually recognises my propositions as nonsensical, when he has used them - as steps - to climb up beyond them. (He must, so to speak, throw away the ladder after he has climbed up it.)
     From: Ludwig Wittgenstein (Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus [1921], 6.54)
     A reaction: A much discussed passage. It can't possibly say that his book is pointless, because you can't attain this recognition without climbing his ladder. He speaks like an eastern guru. Perhaps Hume should have ended 'so commit my book to the flames'?
1. Philosophy / F. Analytic Philosophy / 5. Linguistic Analysis
The limits of my language means the limits of my world [Wittgenstein]
     Full Idea: The limits of my language means the limits of my world.
     From: Ludwig Wittgenstein (Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus [1921], 5.6)
     A reaction: This is dangerous rubbish. For a start, if you accept (as you should) the existence of propositions, our heads are full of unarticulated ones. And truth emerges by degrees from what cannot be articulated.
All complex statements can be resolved into constituents and descriptions [Wittgenstein]
     Full Idea: Every statement about complexes can be resolved into a statement about their constituents and into the propositions that describe the complexes completely.
     From: Ludwig Wittgenstein (Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus [1921], 2.0201)
     A reaction: Russell says this embodies Wittgenstein's belief in analysis. Obviously Wittgenstein is making this claim 'in principle', as life is very short, and people are rather dim. I don't know how to begin evaluating such a claim.
Our language is an aspect of biology, and so its inner logic is opaque [Wittgenstein]
     Full Idea: Everyday language is a part of the human organism and is no less complicated than it. It is not humanly possible to gather immediately from it what the logic of language is.
     From: Ludwig Wittgenstein (Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus [1921], 4.002)
     A reaction: It is normally assumed that ordinary language philosophy was derived from the later Wittgenstein, but this para in the Tractatus seems to contain the germ of the idea. He is pessimistic about finding logical forms.
Most philosophical questions arise from failing to understand the logic of language [Wittgenstein]
     Full Idea: Most of the propositions and questions of philosophers arise from our failure to understand the logic of our language.
     From: Ludwig Wittgenstein (Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus [1921], 4.003)
     A reaction: I'm not sure what the scope of 'logic' is here. I suppose it means everything about language which is expounded in the Tractatus. I assume this includes Plato and Aristotle? I don't think I agree. It's about concepts, not about logic.
1. Philosophy / F. Analytic Philosophy / 7. Limitations of Analysis
This book says we should either say it clearly, or shut up [Wittgenstein]
     Full Idea: The whole sense of the book might be summed up in the following words: what can be said at all can be said clearly, and what we cannot talk about we must pass over in silence.
     From: Ludwig Wittgenstein (Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus [1921], Pref)
     A reaction: This also provides the last sentence of his book. I think this is an axiom of modern analytic philosophy. The dream is to clarify everything, and belief that this is possible puts logic centre-stage, as the most precise language available.
1. Philosophy / G. Scientific Philosophy / 3. Scientism
Science is all the true propositions [Wittgenstein]
     Full Idea: The totality of true propositions is the whole of natural science (or the whole corpus of the natural sciences).
     From: Ludwig Wittgenstein (Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus [1921], 4.11)
     A reaction: So if it is true, it is science. What about truths about science? What about true speculations beyond science? What about bad science? What about trivial everyday truths? This is said to be a rare precursor of logical positivism in Tractatus.