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16. Persons / B. Nature of the Self / 4. Presupposition of Self
The subject stands outside our understanding of the world [Wittgenstein]
     Full Idea: The subject does not belong to the world; rather, it is a limit of the world.
     From: Ludwig Wittgenstein (Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus [1921], 5.632)
     A reaction: Interesting. We must not confuse epistemology with ontology, but the perceived world exists between two limits - the farthest reaches of my perceptions, and the farthest reaches of myself. I wish I could clearly disentangle the nearer border. Dasein?
16. Persons / B. Nature of the Self / 7. Self and Body / a. Self needs body
The mind only knows itself by means of ideas of the modification of the body [Spinoza]
     Full Idea: The mind does not know itself, except in so far as it perceives the ideas of the modifications of the body.
     From: Baruch de Spinoza (The Ethics [1675], II Pr 29)
     A reaction: This is reminiscent of Hume's 'bundle of perceptions' report of introspection. It is in tune with a modern 'animalist' view of a person, and with a view of the mind as a map of the body and its environs. Is he a sceptic about personal identity?