display all the ideas for this combination of texts
6 ideas
3439 | Reductionism gets stuck with qualia [Kim] |
Full Idea: The main obstacle to mind-body reduction is qualia. | |
From: Jaegwon Kim (Philosophy of Mind [1996], p.236) | |
A reaction: Personally I am also impressed by Leibniz's Mill (Idea 2109). No microscope could ever reveal the contents of thought. How can it be so vivid for the owner, but totally undetectable to an observer? |
3427 | Reductionism is impossible if there aren't any 'bridge laws' between mental and physical [Kim] |
Full Idea: Most antireductionist arguments focus on the unavailability of bridge laws to effect the reduction of psychological theory to physical theory (as found in reducing the gas laws to theories about molecules). | |
From: Jaegwon Kim (Philosophy of Mind [1996], p.216) | |
A reaction: Reduction can, of course, be achieved by identity rather than by bridge laws. I would say that all that prevents us from predicting mental events from physical ones is the sheer complexity involved. Cf. predicting the detailed results of an explosion. |
3424 | Most modern physicalists are non-reductive property dualists [Kim] |
Full Idea: The most widely accepted form of physicalism today is the nonreductive variety, ...which combines ontological physicalism with property dualism. | |
From: Jaegwon Kim (Philosophy of Mind [1996], p.212) | |
A reaction: I suspect that property dualism is actually in decline, but we will see. I have yet to find a coherent definition of property dualism. If being simultaneously red and square isn't property dualism, then what is it? Sounds like dualism to me. |
3376 | We can't assess evidence about mind without acknowledging phenomenal properties [Kim] |
Full Idea: In order to make sense of the empirical character of mind-brain identity, we must acknowledge the existence of phenomenal properties. | |
From: Jaegwon Kim (Philosophy of Mind [1996], p. 66) | |
A reaction: Mind-brain identity is, of course, an ontological theory, not an epistemological one (like empiricism). I suspect that the basis for my belief in reductive physicalism is an intuition, which I am hoping is a rational intuition. Cf. Idea 3989. |
3362 | Supervenience says all souls are identical, being physically indiscernible [Kim] |
Full Idea: If one accepts the supervenience of mental on physical, this logically implies that there can only be one Cartesian soul, because such souls are physically indiscernible, and hence mentally indiscernible. | |
From: Jaegwon Kim (Philosophy of Mind [1996], p. 10) | |
A reaction: Not very persuasive. Brains are certainly discernible, and so are parts of brains. Egos might be mentally discernible. I don't find my notion of personal identity collapsing just because I espouse property dualism. |
3413 | Zombies and inversion suggest non-reducible supervenience [Kim] |
Full Idea: The main argument for the physical supervenience of qualia, then, is the apparent conceivability of zombies and qualia inversion in organisms physically indistinguishable from us. | |
From: Jaegwon Kim (Philosophy of Mind [1996], p.171) | |
A reaction: Since neither zombies nor qualia inversion for identical brains seem to me to be even remotely conceivable, I won't trouble myself with the very vague concept of 'supervenience'. |