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19. Language / F. Communication / 1. Rhetoric

7357	People who control others with fluent language often end up being hated [Kongzi (Confucius)]
	Full Idea: Of what use is eloquence? He who engages in fluency of words to control men often finds himself hated by them.
	From: Kongzi (Confucius) (The Analects (Lunyu) [c.511 BCE], V.5)
	A reaction: I don't recall Socrates making this very good point to any of the sophists (such as Gorgias). The idea that if you battle or connive your way to dominance over others then you are successful is false. Life is a much longer game than that.