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22. Metaethics / C. The Good / 2. Happiness / c. Value of happiness

18307	I want my work, not happiness! [Nietzsche]
	Full Idea: Do I aspire after happiness? I aspire after my work!
	From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Thus Spake Zarathustra [1884], 4.20)
	A reaction: I empathise with aspiring to do something, rather than be something. But what do we wish for our children? Happiness first, then achievement?

22. Metaethics / C. The Good / 3. Pleasure / f. Dangers of pleasure

1664	I would rather go mad than experience pleasure [Antisthenes (I)]
	Full Idea: I would rather go mad than experience pleasure.
	From: Antisthenes (Ath) (fragments/reports [c.405 BCE]), quoted by Diogenes Laertius - Lives of Eminent Philosophers 06.3
	A reaction: Did he actually prefer pain? If both experiences would drive him mad, it seems like a desire for death. I cannot understand why anyone is opposed to harmless pleasures.