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22. Metaethics / B. Value / 1. Nature of Value / f. Ultimate value
Live in agreement, according to experience of natural events [Chrysippus]
     Full Idea: The goal of life is to live in agreement, which is according to experience of the things which happen by nature.
     From: Chrysippus (fragments/reports [c.240 BCE]), quoted by John Stobaeus - Anthology 2.06a
     A reaction: Cleanthes added 'with nature' to Zeno's slogan, and Chyrisppus added this variation. At least it gives you some idea of what the consistent rational principle should be. You still have to assess which aspects of nature should influence us.
22. Metaethics / B. Value / 2. Values / g. Love
Love assists men in achieving merit and happiness [Plato]
     Full Idea: Phaedrus: Love is not only the oldest and most honourable of the gods, but also the most powerful to assist men in the acquisition of merit and happiness, both here and hereafter.
     From: Plato (The Symposium [c.384 BCE], 180b)
     A reaction: Maybe we should talk less of love as a feeling, and more as a motivation, not just in human relationships, but in activities like gardening and database compilation.
Love is desire for perpetual possession of the good [Plato]
     Full Idea: Love is desire for perpetual possession of the good.
     From: Plato (The Symposium [c.384 BCE], 206a)
     A reaction: Even the worst human beings often have lovers. 'Perpetual' is a nice observation.
Love follows beauty, wisdom is exceptionally beautiful, so love follows wisdom [Plato]
     Full Idea: Wisdom is one of the most beautiful of things, and Love is love of beauty, so it follows that Love must be a love of wisdom.
     From: Plato (The Symposium [c.384 BCE], 204b)
     A reaction: Good, but wisdom isn't the only exceptionally beautiful thing. Music is beautiful partly because it is devoid of ideas.