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| 189 | If we punish wrong-doers, it shows that we believe virtue can be taught [Plato] |
| 188 | Socrates did not believe that virtue could be taught [Plato] |
| 204 | Socrates is contradicting himself in claiming virtue can't be taught, but that it is knowledge [Plato] |
| 7809 | In an honour code shame is the supreme punishment, and revenge is a duty [Grayling] |