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22586 | Only humans have reason [Aristotle] |
Full Idea: The human being alone has reason. | |
From: Aristotle (Politics [c.332 BCE], 1332b04) | |
A reaction: Only in the last fifty years have we begun to grasp how clever larger animals are, and I would say that they consistently make rational choices, even if they can't articulate them. |
2803 | Man is by nature a political animal [Aristotle] |
Full Idea: Man is by nature a political animal. | |
From: Aristotle (Politics [c.332 BCE], 1253a01) | |
A reaction: It might be clearer if we said 'social animal'. We are certainly gregarious. Anyone who fails to be social is dismissed by Aristotle as not truly human. |
2820 | People want to live together, even when they don't want mutual help [Aristotle] |
Full Idea: Men have a desire for live together, even when they have no need to seek each other's help. | |
From: Aristotle (Politics [c.332 BCE], 1278b20) | |
A reaction: He says that someone who doesn't want to live in community because they are wholly self-sufficient doesn't count as a normal human. |
22523 | The community (of villages) becomes a city when it is totally self-sufficient [Aristotle] |
Full Idea: The community, coming from several villages, when it is complete, is the city, once it has already reached (one might almost say) the limit of total self-sufficiency. | |
From: Aristotle (Politics [c.332 BCE], 1252b27) | |
A reaction: I suppose a group of villages might be self-sufficient, provided water supply and defences were secure. In a city it is all within easy reach. Each village can't have a full set of specialists. |
2805 | A community must share a common view of good and justice [Aristotle] |
Full Idea: It is sharing a common view in good and evil, justice and injustice, that makes a household and a state. | |
From: Aristotle (Politics [c.332 BCE], 1253a17) | |
A reaction: This idea comes up against the modern idea of pluralism (e.g. in Isaiah Berlin), which is inevitable in huge states with a lot of migration. |
22526 | People who are anti-social or wholly self-sufficient are no part of a city [Aristotle] |
Full Idea: Anyone who cannot live in a community with others, or who does not need to because of his self-sufficiency, is no part of a city, so that he is either a wild beast or a god. | |
From: Aristotle (Politics [c.332 BCE], 1253a27) | |
A reaction: Civil people should try hard to accommodate those who are anti-social. I'm not convinced that there is anyone who is wholly self-sufficient. |
22535 | Friendship is the best good for cities, because it reduces factions [Aristotle] |
Full Idea: We think friendship is the greatest good for cities, since this way people are least likely to engage in faction. | |
From: Aristotle (Politics [c.332 BCE], 1262b07) | |
A reaction: Earlier philosophers were deeply worried about 'faction', but we now accept the gangs of secretive hoodlums called political parties. I suspect the old view was right, but it's a bit late now. You can't engineer friendships (can you?). |
22584 | A community should all share to some extent in something like land or food [Aristotle] |
Full Idea: Communities should have some one thing that is common and the same for all the members, whether they share in it equally or unequally - for example, food, a quantity of territory, or something else of this sort. | |
From: Aristotle (Politics [c.332 BCE], 1328a27) | |
A reaction: In modern societies vast numbers of people own no land at all, and common land has dwindled. Maybe it is roads, buses and trains? |
22532 | A city can't become entirely one, because its very nature is to be a multitude [Aristotle] |
Full Idea: Socrates adopts the hypothesis that it is best for a city to be as far as possible entirely one. …But it is evident that the more a city becomes one the less of a city it will be. For a city is in its nature a sort of multitude. | |
From: Aristotle (Politics [c.332 BCE], 1261a14) | |
A reaction: [He is referring to Plato's Republic] He says if a city wholly unifies it becomes like a household, and then a human being, rather than a city. A very interesting commitment to diversity in a city, based on its essential nature. Athens was very diverse. |
22581 | The size of a city is decided by the maximum self-sufficient community that can be surveyed [Aristotle] |
Full Idea: The best defining mark of a city is the greatest excess of multitude with a view to self-sufficiency in living that can easily be surveyed as a whole. Let the size of the city, then, be determined in this way. | |
From: Aristotle (Politics [c.332 BCE], 1326b23) | |
A reaction: Modern states have presumably far exceeded to self-sufficiency test. The requirement to be 'surveyed' presumably implies that the state can be controlled. Modern technology means almost no limit to such a size. |