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Ideas for 'What is Logic?st1=Ian Hacking', 'Identity, Essence and Indiscernibility' and 'Unpublished Notebooks 1881-82'

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25. Social Practice / D. Justice / 3. Punishment / a. Right to punish
Reasons that justify punishment can also justify the crime [Nietzsche]
     Full Idea: The reasons used to justify the punishment for a crime can also be used to justify the crime.
     From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Unpublished Notebooks 1881-82 [1882], 3[312])
     A reaction: A splendid observation, even if it is not wholly true. The justification of capital punishment appeals in some way to the whole of society, but a murderer could hardly do that.
25. Social Practice / D. Justice / 3. Punishment / b. Retribution for crime
Do away with punishment. Counter-retribution is as bad as the crime [Nietzsche]
     Full Idea: My programme: do away with punishment: for us. Counter-retribution is nonsense. (If something is evil, then whoever performs the counter-retribution is certainly committing the same evil).
     From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Unpublished Notebooks 1881-82 [1882], 16[17])
     A reaction: Note that he seems to have a perfectly orthodox concept of 'evil' here. I don't think he ever suggested a strategy to replace punishment.