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2630 | If Plato's God is immaterial, he will lack consciousness, wisdom, pleasure and movement, which are essential to him [Cicero on Plato] |
Full Idea: Plato holds God to be without a body, immaterial; but this is an incomprehensible idea. Such a god would inevitably lack any consciousness, any wisdom and any pleasure (…or motion), all of which are bound up in our idea of God. | |
From: comment on Plato (The Republic [c.374 BCE]) by M. Tullius Cicero - On the Nature of the Gods ('De natura deorum') I.30 |
14 | If the gods are non-existent or indifferent, why bother to deceive them? [Plato] |
Full Idea: If there are no gods or if they care nothing for human affairs, why should we bother to deceive them? | |
From: Plato (The Republic [c.374 BCE], 365d) | |
A reaction: There is incipient deism here, as well as atheism. |