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We can talk of 'innumerable number', about the infinite points on a line [Newton]
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Full Idea:
If any man shall take the words number and sum in a larger sense, to understand things which are numberless and sumless (such as the infinite points on a line), I could allow him the contradictious phrase 'innumerable number' without absurdity.
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From:
Isaac Newton (Letters to Bentley [1692], 1693.02.25)
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A reaction:
[compressed] I take the key point here to be the phrase of taking number 'in a larger sense'. Like the word 'atom' in physics, the word 'number' retains its traditional reference, but has considerably shifted its scope. Amateurs must live with this.
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The existence of numbers is not a matter of identities, but of constituents of the world [Fine,K]
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Full Idea:
On saying that a particular number exists, we are not saying that there is something identical to it, but saying something about its status as a genuine constituent of the world.
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From:
Kit Fine (The Question of Ontology [2009], p.168)
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A reaction:
This is aimed at Frege's criterion of identity, which is to be an element in an identity relation, such as x = y. Fine suggests that this only gives a 'trivial' notion of existence, when he is interested in a 'thick' sense of 'exists'.
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The indispensability argument shows that nature is non-numerical, not the denial of numbers [Fine,K]
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Full Idea:
Arguments such as the dispensability argument are attempting to show something about the essentially non-numerical character of physical reality, rather than something about the nature or non-existence of the numbers themselves.
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From:
Kit Fine (The Question of Ontology [2009], p.160)
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A reaction:
This is aimed at Hartry Field. If Quine was right, and we only believe in numbers because of our science, and then Field shows our science doesn't need it, then Fine would be wrong. Quine must be wrong, as well as Field.
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