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7969 | The order of numbers is an internal relation, not an external one [Wittgenstein] |
Full Idea: The order of the number-series is not governed by an external relation but by an internal relation. | |
From: Ludwig Wittgenstein (Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus [1921], 4.1252) | |
A reaction: He seems to mean something like a tautology (see Idea 7968). It is, I take it, part of the concept of any given integer that it has a place in the series. But do the concepts arise self-evidently, or from nature? |
7968 | A relation is internal if it is unthinkable that its object should not possess it [Wittgenstein] |
Full Idea: A relation is internal if it is unthinkable that its object should not possess it. (This shade of blue and that one stand, eo ipso, in the internal relation of lighter to darker. It is unthinkable that these two objects should not stand in this relation). | |
From: Ludwig Wittgenstein (Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus [1921], 4.123) | |
A reaction: An epistemological definition. If only one shade of blue existed, would it still have this internal relation? Are things therefore full of potential internal relations with non-existent things? |
190 | If asked whether justice itself is just or unjust, you would have to say that it is just [Plato] |
Full Idea: If someone asked me 'Is justice itself just or unjust?' I should answer that it was just, wouldn't you? I agree. | |
From: Plato (Protagoras [c.380 BCE], 330c) |