17 ideas
23825 | We seek truth only because it is good [Weil] |
Full Idea: Truth is sought not because it is truth but because it is good. | |
From: Simone Weil (Gravity and Grace (9 extracts) [1943], p.233) | |
A reaction: A perfect instance of modern platonism. A few weird people seem to enjoy lying. Personally I cannot find enough content in the word 'good' in such claims. |
22593 | Our sensation of light may not be the same as what produces the sensation [Descartes] |
Full Idea: There can be a difference between our sensation of light and what is in the objects that produce that sensation in us. | |
From: René Descartes (The World [1631]), quoted by Ian Dunt - How to be a Liberal 1 | |
A reaction: Note only that they 'may' differ, and that he does not assert that they are entirely different. Secondary qualities give information, and are not just mental events. |
8063 | Baumgarten founded aesthetics in 1750 [Baumgarten, by Tolstoy] |
Full Idea: Baumgarten founded aesthetics in the year 1750. | |
From: report of Alexander Baumgarten (Aesthetica [1739]) by Leo Tolstoy - What is Art? Ch.2 | |
A reaction: He gave it a label, separated it off from the rest of philosophy, and made taste the main focus. The philosophy of art goes back to at least Plato's 'Republic' and 'Symposium'. |
8118 | Beauty is an order between parts, and in relation to the whole [Baumgarten, by Tolstoy] |
Full Idea: Beauty is defined by Baumgarten as a correspondence, that is, an order of parts in their mutual relations to each other and in their relation to the whole. | |
From: report of Alexander Baumgarten (Aesthetica [1739]) by Leo Tolstoy - What is Art? Ch.3 | |
A reaction: This may be one aspect of what is beautiful, but rather more than a nice arrangement is probably needed for art. We must distinguish flower arranging from poetic drama. Some masterpieces are rather messily arranged. |
23826 | Beauty, goodness and truth are only achieved by applying full attention [Weil] |
Full Idea: The authentic and pure values - truth, beauty and goodness - in the activity of a human being are the result of one and same act, a certain application of the full attention to the object. Teaching should only aim to train the attention for such an act. | |
From: Simone Weil (Gravity and Grace (9 extracts) [1943], p.234) | |
A reaction: A distinctive Weil idea, that absorbed 'attention' produces almost mystical results. I am not convinced that a great still life painter (than which there is no higher criterion of attention) achieves contact with goodness thereby. But attention is good! |
23833 | The good is a nothingness, and yet real [Weil] |
Full Idea: The good seems to us a nothingness, since there is no thing that is good. But this nothingness is not unreal. | |
From: Simone Weil (Gravity and Grace (9 extracts) [1943], p.278) | |
A reaction: A neat move in the notoriously difficult platonic problem of specifying the actual nature of the good. |
23808 | There are two goods - the absolute good we want, and the reachable opposite of evil [Weil] |
Full Idea: There are two goods - one which is the opposite of evil, and one which is the absolute. …That which we want is the absolute good. That which is within our reach is the good which is correlated with evil. | |
From: Simone Weil (Gravity and Grace (9 extracts) [1943], p.142) | |
A reaction: Elsewhere she seems in tune with the thought of Nietzsche (whom she despised) that good and evil are false social constructs which are quite different from healthy values. Weil, of course, sees the absolute as transcendent. |
8117 | Perfection comes through the senses (Beauty), through reason (Truth), and through moral will (Good) [Baumgarten, by Tolstoy] |
Full Idea: For Baumgarten, Beauty is the Perfect (the Absolute), recognised through the senses; Truth is the Perfect perceived through reason; Goodness is the Perfect reached by moral will. | |
From: report of Alexander Baumgarten (Aesthetica [1739]) by Leo Tolstoy - What is Art? Ch.3 | |
A reaction: At last, after many years of searching, I have found the origin of that great trio of ideals: Beauty, Goodness and Truth. Tolstoy sneers at them, but a person could do a lot worse than spending their lives trying to promote them. |
23831 | The essence of power is illusory prestige [Weil] |
Full Idea: Prestige, which is an illusion, is the very essence of power. | |
From: Simone Weil (Gravity and Grace (9 extracts) [1943], p.255) | |
A reaction: It is hard to maintain illusory prestige if there is no actual power behind it. |
23830 | A group is only dangerous if it endorses an abstract entity [Weil] |
Full Idea: Any group which has not secreted an abstract entity will probably not be dangerous. | |
From: Simone Weil (Gravity and Grace (9 extracts) [1943], p.255) | |
A reaction: Written in the 1930s, the era of many political -isms. No group can be united if it lacks a clear label, and a few simple slogans. |
23809 | Our only social duty is to try to limit evil [Weil] |
Full Idea: Our only duty with regard to the social is to try to limit the evil of it. | |
From: Simone Weil (Gravity and Grace (9 extracts) [1943], p.143) | |
A reaction: This is one of Weil's occasional remarks that have an anarchist flavour. I increasingly sympathise with this less idealistic view as I get older. |
23807 | The collective is the one and only object of false idolatry [Weil] |
Full Idea: The Great Beast is the great object of idolatry, the only ersatz of God. …Only one thing can be taken as an end, for in relation to the human person it possesses a kind of transcendence: this is the collective. | |
From: Simone Weil (Gravity and Grace (9 extracts) [1943], p.140) | |
A reaction: [Society as the Great Beast is in Republic Bk 6] She is referring to both fascist and communist states. Weil seems to be a left-wing liberal, with a tendency towards anarchism, because her priority is the individual, not the group. |
23810 | Charity is the only love, and you can feel that for a country (a place with traditions), but not a nation [Weil] |
Full Idea: We must not have any other love than charity. A nation cannot be an object of charity. But a country can be one - as an environment bearing traditions which are eternal. Every country can be that. | |
From: Simone Weil (Gravity and Grace (9 extracts) [1943], p.146) | |
A reaction: This definitely strikes a chord with me. I am English and British to the core, but don't feel any love at all for the current central institutions of the state. But I love my island, and its history, and its culture, and its style. |
23811 | If effort is from necessity rather than for a good, it is slavery [Weil] |
Full Idea: To strive from necessity and not for some good - ...that is always slavery. | |
From: Simone Weil (Gravity and Grace (9 extracts) [1943], p.180) | |
A reaction: It is usual to see the possibility of anarchism as the starting point for political thinking, but I think for Weil the state of slavery has that role. |
16569 | The Hot, Cold, Wet and Dry of the philosophers need themselves to be explained [Descartes] |
Full Idea: If you find it strange that in explaining these elements I do not use the qualities called Hot, Cold, Wet and Dry - as the philosophers do - I shall say to you that these qualities themselves seem to me to need explanation. | |
From: René Descartes (The World [1631], 9:25-6), quoted by Robert Pasnau - Metaphysical Themes 1274-1671 1.3 | |
A reaction: Nice. I take pushing the boundaries of explanation back (or down) to be the basic driving force of all human thought, in metaphysics as well as in physics. |
20964 | Descartes said there was conservation of 'quantity of motion' [Descartes, by Papineau] |
Full Idea: Descartes incorporated the conservation of what he called 'quantity of motion', by which he meant mass times speed. | |
From: report of René Descartes (The World [1631]) by David Papineau - Thinking about Consciousness App 2 | |
A reaction: Mass times velocity is now called 'momentum'. Is this the first ever conservation law? There are now lots of them. |
23765 | The soul is the intrinsic value of a human [Weil] |
Full Idea: The soul is the human being considered as having a value in itself. | |
From: Simone Weil (Gravity and Grace (9 extracts) [1943], p.294) | |
A reaction: [from 'Gravity and Grace'] A rather modern view, treating the soul as an abstraction, rather than as an entity. |