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1. Philosophy / F. Analytic Philosophy / 7. Limitations of Analysis
Concern for rigour can get in the way of understanding phenomena [Fine,K]
     Full Idea: It is often the case that the concern for rigor gets in the way of a true understanding of the phenomena to be explained.
     From: Kit Fine (Replies on 'Limits of Abstraction' [2005], 2)
     A reaction: This is a counter to Timothy Williamson's love affair with rigour in philosophy. It strikes me as the big current question for analytical philosophy - of whether the intense pursuit of 'rigour' will actually deliver the wisdom we all seek.
2. Reason / D. Definition / 7. Contextual Definition
Contextual definitions replace a complete sentence containing the expression [George/Velleman]
     Full Idea: A contextual definition shows how to analyse an expression in situ, by replacing a complete sentence (of a particular form) in which the expression occurs by another in which it does not.
     From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.2)
     A reaction: This is a controversial procedure, which (according to Dummett) Frege originally accepted, and later rejected. It might not be the perfect definition that replacing just the expression would give you, but it is a promising step.
2. Reason / D. Definition / 8. Impredicative Definition
Impredicative definitions quantify over the thing being defined [George/Velleman]
     Full Idea: When a definition contains a quantifier whose range includes the very entity being defined, the definition is said to be 'impredicative'.
     From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.2)
     A reaction: Presumably they are 'impredicative' because they do not predicate a new quality in the definiens, but make use of the qualities already known.
4. Formal Logic / F. Set Theory ST / 2. Mechanics of Set Theory / b. Terminology of ST
The 'power set' of A is all the subsets of A [George/Velleman]
     Full Idea: The 'power set' of A is all the subsets of A. P(A) = {B : B ⊆ A}.
     From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.3)
The 'ordered pair' <a, b>, for two sets a and b, is the set {{a, b},{a}} [George/Velleman]
     Full Idea: The 'ordered pair' <a, b>, for two sets a and b, is the set {{a, b},{a}}. The existence of this set is guaranteed by three applications of the Axiom of Pairing.
     From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.3)
     A reaction: See Idea 10100 for the Axiom of Pairing.
Cartesian Product A x B: the set of all ordered pairs in which a∈A and b∈B [George/Velleman]
     Full Idea: The 'Cartesian Product' of any two sets A and B is the set of all ordered pairs <a, b> in which a ∈ A and b ∈ B, and it is denoted as A x B.
     From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.3)
4. Formal Logic / F. Set Theory ST / 3. Types of Set / e. Equivalence classes
Grouping by property is common in mathematics, usually using equivalence [George/Velleman]
     Full Idea: The idea of grouping together objects that share some property is a common one in mathematics, ...and the technique most often involves the use of equivalence relations.
     From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.3)
'Equivalence' is a reflexive, symmetric and transitive relation; 'same first letter' partitions English words [George/Velleman]
     Full Idea: A relation is an equivalence relation if it is reflexive, symmetric and transitive. The 'same first letter' is an equivalence relation on the set of English words. Any relation that puts a partition into clusters will be equivalence - and vice versa.
     From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.3)
     A reaction: This is a key concept in the Fregean strategy for defining numbers.
4. Formal Logic / F. Set Theory ST / 4. Axioms for Sets / a. Axioms for sets
Even the elements of sets in ZFC are sets, resting on the pure empty set [George/Velleman]
     Full Idea: ZFC is a theory concerned only with sets. Even the elements of all of the sets studied in ZFC are also sets (whose elements are also sets, and so on). This rests on one clearly pure set, the empty set Φ. ..Mathematics only needs pure sets.
     From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.3)
     A reaction: This makes ZFC a much more metaphysically comfortable way to think about sets, because it can be viewed entirely formally. It is rather hard to disentangle a chair from the singleton set of that chair.
4. Formal Logic / F. Set Theory ST / 4. Axioms for Sets / b. Axiom of Extensionality I
Axiom of Extensionality: for all sets x and y, if x and y have the same elements then x = y [George/Velleman]
     Full Idea: The Axiom of Extensionality says that for all sets x and y, if x and y have the same elements then x = y.
     From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.3)
     A reaction: This seems fine in pure set theory, but hits the problem of renates and cordates in the real world. The elements coincide, but the axiom can't tell you why they coincide.
4. Formal Logic / F. Set Theory ST / 4. Axioms for Sets / c. Axiom of Pairing II
Axiom of Pairing: for all sets x and y, there is a set z containing just x and y [George/Velleman]
     Full Idea: The Axiom of Pairing says that for all sets x and y, there is a set z containing x and y, and nothing else. In symbols: ∀x∀y∃z∀w(w ∈ z ↔ (w = x ∨ w = y)).
     From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.3)
     A reaction: See Idea 10099 for an application of this axiom.
4. Formal Logic / F. Set Theory ST / 4. Axioms for Sets / p. Axiom of Reducibility
The Axiom of Reducibility made impredicative definitions possible [George/Velleman]
     Full Idea: The Axiom of Reducibility ...had the effect of making impredicative definitions possible.
     From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.3)
4. Formal Logic / F. Set Theory ST / 5. Conceptions of Set / a. Sets as existing
ZFC can prove that there is no set corresponding to the concept 'set' [George/Velleman]
     Full Idea: Sets, unlike extensions, fail to correspond to all concepts. We can prove in ZFC that there is no set corresponding to the concept 'set' - that is, there is no set of all sets.
     From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.4)
     A reaction: This is rather an important point for Frege. However, all concepts have extensions, but they may be proper classes, rather than precisely defined sets.
4. Formal Logic / F. Set Theory ST / 5. Conceptions of Set / e. Iterative sets
There is no stage at which we can take all the sets to have been generated [Fine,K]
     Full Idea: There is no stage at which we can take all the sets to have been generated, since the set of all those sets which have been generated at a given stage will itself give us something new.
     From: Kit Fine (Replies on 'Limits of Abstraction' [2005], 1)
4. Formal Logic / F. Set Theory ST / 8. Critique of Set Theory
As a reduction of arithmetic, set theory is not fully general, and so not logical [George/Velleman]
     Full Idea: The problem with reducing arithmetic to ZFC is not that this theory is inconsistent (as far as we know it is not), but rather that is not completely general, and for this reason not logical. For example, it asserts the existence of sets.
     From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.4)
     A reaction: Note that ZFC has not been proved consistent.
4. Formal Logic / G. Formal Mereology / 3. Axioms of Mereology
We might combine the axioms of set theory with the axioms of mereology [Fine,K]
     Full Idea: We might combine the standard axioms of set theory with the standard axioms of mereology.
     From: Kit Fine (Replies on 'Limits of Abstraction' [2005], 1)
5. Theory of Logic / D. Assumptions for Logic / 2. Excluded Middle
Asserting Excluded Middle is a hallmark of realism about the natural world [George/Velleman]
     Full Idea: A hallmark of our realist stance towards the natural world is that we are prepared to assert the Law of Excluded Middle for all statements about it. For all statements S, either S is true, or not-S is true.
     From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.4)
     A reaction: Personally I firmly subscribe to realism, so I suppose I must subscribe to Excluded Middle. ...Provided the statement is properly formulated. Or does liking excluded middle lead me to realism?
5. Theory of Logic / G. Quantification / 5. Second-Order Quantification
If you ask what F the second-order quantifier quantifies over, you treat it as first-order [Fine,K]
     Full Idea: We are tempted to ask of second-order quantifiers 'what are you quantifying over?', or 'when you say "for some F" then what is the F?', but these questions already presuppose that the quantifiers are first-order.
     From: Kit Fine (Replies on 'Limits of Abstraction' [2005])
5. Theory of Logic / I. Semantics of Logic / 1. Semantics of Logic
Assigning an entity to each predicate in semantics is largely a technical convenience [Fine,K]
     Full Idea: In doing semantics we normally assign some appropriate entity to each predicate, but this is largely for technical convenience.
     From: Kit Fine (Replies on 'Limits of Abstraction' [2005], 2)
5. Theory of Logic / J. Model Theory in Logic / 1. Logical Models
A 'model' is a meaning-assignment which makes all the axioms true [George/Velleman]
     Full Idea: A 'model' of a theory is an assignment of meanings to the symbols of its language which makes all of its axioms come out true.
     From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.7)
     A reaction: If the axioms are all true, and the theory is sound, then all of the theorems will also come out true.
5. Theory of Logic / J. Model Theory in Logic / 2. Isomorphisms
Differences between isomorphic structures seem unimportant [George/Velleman]
     Full Idea: Mathematicians tend to regard the differences between isomorphic mathematical structures as unimportant.
     From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.3)
     A reaction: This seems to be a pointer towards Structuralism as the underlying story in mathematics. The intrinsic character of so-called 'objects' seems unimportant. How theories map onto one another (and onto the world?) is all that matters?
5. Theory of Logic / K. Features of Logics / 2. Consistency
Consistency is a purely syntactic property, unlike the semantic property of soundness [George/Velleman]
     Full Idea: Consistency is a purely syntactic property, unlike the semantic property of soundness.
     From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.6)
A 'consistent' theory cannot contain both a sentence and its negation [George/Velleman]
     Full Idea: If there is a sentence such that both the sentence and its negation are theorems of a theory, then the theory is 'inconsistent'. Otherwise it is 'consistent'.
     From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.7)
5. Theory of Logic / K. Features of Logics / 3. Soundness
Soundness is a semantic property, unlike the purely syntactic property of consistency [George/Velleman]
     Full Idea: Soundness is a semantic property, unlike the purely syntactic property of consistency.
     From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.6)
5. Theory of Logic / K. Features of Logics / 4. Completeness
A 'complete' theory contains either any sentence or its negation [George/Velleman]
     Full Idea: If there is a sentence such that neither the sentence nor its negation are theorems of a theory, then the theory is 'incomplete'. Otherwise it is 'complete'.
     From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.7)
     A reaction: Interesting questions are raised about undecidable sentences, irrelevant sentences, unknown sentences....
6. Mathematics / A. Nature of Mathematics / 3. Nature of Numbers / b. Types of number
Dedekind cuts lead to the bizarre idea that there are many different number 1's [Fine,K]
     Full Idea: Because of Dedekind's definition of reals by cuts, there is a bizarre modern doctrine that there are many 1's - the natural number 1, the rational number 1, the real number 1, and even the complex number 1.
     From: Kit Fine (Replies on 'Limits of Abstraction' [2005], 2)
     A reaction: See Idea 10572.
Rational numbers give answers to division problems with integers [George/Velleman]
     Full Idea: We can think of rational numbers as providing answers to division problems involving integers.
     From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.3)
     A reaction: Cf. Idea 10102.
The integers are answers to subtraction problems involving natural numbers [George/Velleman]
     Full Idea: In defining the integers in set theory, our definition will be motivated by thinking of the integers as answers to subtraction problems involving natural numbers.
     From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.3)
     A reaction: Typical of how all of the families of numbers came into existence; they are 'invented' so that we can have answers to problems, even if we can't interpret the answers. It it is money, we may say the minus-number is a 'debt', but is it? Cf Idea 10106.
6. Mathematics / A. Nature of Mathematics / 3. Nature of Numbers / g. Real numbers
Real numbers provide answers to square root problems [George/Velleman]
     Full Idea: One reason for introducing the real numbers is to provide answers to square root problems.
     From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.3)
     A reaction: Presumably the other main reasons is to deal with problems of exact measurement. It is interesting that there seem to be two quite distinct reasons for introducing the reals. Cf. Ideas 10102 and 10106.
6. Mathematics / A. Nature of Mathematics / 3. Nature of Numbers / i. Reals from cuts
Why should a Dedekind cut correspond to a number? [Fine,K]
     Full Idea: By what right can Dedekind suppose that there is a number corresponding to any pair of irrationals that constitute an irrational cut?
     From: Kit Fine (Replies on 'Limits of Abstraction' [2005], 2)
6. Mathematics / A. Nature of Mathematics / 3. Nature of Numbers / l. Zero
Unless we know whether 0 is identical with the null set, we create confusions [Fine,K]
     Full Idea: What is the union of the singleton {0}, of zero, and the singleton {φ}, of the null set? Is it the one-element set {0}, or the two-element set {0, φ}? Unless the question of identity between 0 and φ is resolved, we cannot say.
     From: Kit Fine (Replies on 'Limits of Abstraction' [2005], 2)
6. Mathematics / A. Nature of Mathematics / 4. Using Numbers / g. Applying mathematics
Logicists say mathematics is applicable because it is totally general [George/Velleman]
     Full Idea: The logicist idea is that if mathematics is logic, and logic is the most general of disciplines, one that applies to all rational thought regardless of its content, then it is not surprising that mathematics is widely applicable.
     From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.2)
     A reaction: Frege was keen to emphasise this. You are left wondering why pure logic is applicable to the physical world. The only account I can give is big-time Platonism, or Pythagoreanism. Logic reveals the engine-room of nature, where the design is done.
6. Mathematics / A. Nature of Mathematics / 5. The Infinite / d. Actual infinite
The classical mathematician believes the real numbers form an actual set [George/Velleman]
     Full Idea: Unlike the intuitionist, the classical mathematician believes in an actual set that contains all the real numbers.
     From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.6)
6. Mathematics / B. Foundations for Mathematics / 4. Axioms for Number / e. Peano arithmetic 2nd-order
Second-order induction is stronger as it covers all concepts, not just first-order definable ones [George/Velleman]
     Full Idea: The first-order version of the induction axiom is weaker than the second-order, because the latter applies to all concepts, but the first-order applies only to concepts definable by a formula in the first-order language of number theory.
     From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.7 n7)
6. Mathematics / B. Foundations for Mathematics / 4. Axioms for Number / g. Incompleteness of Arithmetic
The Incompleteness proofs use arithmetic to talk about formal arithmetic [George/Velleman]
     Full Idea: The idea behind the proofs of the Incompleteness Theorems is to use the language of Peano Arithmetic to talk about the formal system of Peano Arithmetic itself.
     From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.7)
     A reaction: The mechanism used is to assign a Gödel Number to every possible formula, so that all reasonings become instances of arithmetic.
6. Mathematics / B. Foundations for Mathematics / 5. Definitions of Number / c. Fregean numbers
A successor is the union of a set with its singleton [George/Velleman]
     Full Idea: For any set x, we define the 'successor' of x to be the set S(x) = x U {x}.
     From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.3)
     A reaction: This is the Fregean approach to successor, where the Dedekind approach takes 'successor' to be a primitive. Frege 1884:§76.
6. Mathematics / B. Foundations for Mathematics / 5. Definitions of Number / d. Hume's Principle
Frege's Theorem shows the Peano Postulates can be derived from Hume's Principle [George/Velleman]
     Full Idea: The derivability of Peano's Postulates from Hume's Principle in second-order logic has been dubbed 'Frege's Theorem', (though Frege would not have been interested, because he didn't think Hume's Principle gave an adequate definition of numebrs).
     From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.8 n1)
     A reaction: Frege said the numbers were the sets which were the extensions of the sets created by Hume's Principle.
6. Mathematics / B. Foundations for Mathematics / 6. Mathematics as Set Theory / a. Mathematics is set theory
Set theory can prove the Peano Postulates [George/Velleman]
     Full Idea: The Peano Postulates can be proven in ZFC.
     From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.7)
6. Mathematics / B. Foundations for Mathematics / 6. Mathematics as Set Theory / b. Mathematics is not set theory
Set-theoretic imperialists think sets can represent every mathematical object [Fine,K]
     Full Idea: Set-theoretic imperialists think that it must be possible to represent every mathematical object as a set.
     From: Kit Fine (Replies on 'Limits of Abstraction' [2005], 1)
6. Mathematics / C. Sources of Mathematics / 1. Mathematical Platonism / b. Against mathematical platonism
Talk of 'abstract entities' is more a label for the problem than a solution to it [George/Velleman]
     Full Idea: One might well wonder whether talk of abstract entities is less a solution to the empiricist's problem of how a priori knowledge is possible than it is a label for the problem.
     From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Intro)
     A reaction: This pinpoints my view nicely. What the platonist postulates is remote, bewildering, implausible and useless!
6. Mathematics / C. Sources of Mathematics / 4. Mathematical Empiricism / c. Against mathematical empiricism
If mathematics is not about particulars, observing particulars must be irrelevant [George/Velleman]
     Full Idea: As, in the logicist view, mathematics is about nothing particular, it is little wonder that nothing in particular needs to be observed in order to acquire mathematical knowledge.
     From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002])
     A reaction: At the very least we can say that no one would have even dreamt of the general system of arithmetic is they hadn't had experience of the particulars. Frege thought generality ensured applicability, but extreme generality might entail irrelevance.
6. Mathematics / C. Sources of Mathematics / 6. Logicism / a. Early logicism
Logicists say mathematics can be derived from definitions, and can be known that way [Fine,K]
     Full Idea: Logicists traditionally claim that the theorems of mathematics can be derived by logical means from the relevant definitions of the terms, and that these theorems are epistemically innocent (knowable without Kantian intuition or empirical confirmation).
     From: Kit Fine (Replies on 'Limits of Abstraction' [2005], 2)
6. Mathematics / C. Sources of Mathematics / 6. Logicism / b. Type theory
In the unramified theory of types, the types are objects, then sets of objects, sets of sets etc. [George/Velleman]
     Full Idea: In the unramified theory of types, all objects are classified into a hierarchy of types. The lowest level has individual objects that are not sets. Next come sets whose elements are individuals, then sets of sets, etc. Variables are confined to types.
     From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.3)
     A reaction: The objects are Type 0, the basic sets Type 1, etc.
The theory of types seems to rule out harmless sets as well as paradoxical ones. [George/Velleman]
     Full Idea: The theory of types seems to rule out harmless sets as well as paradoxical ones. If a is an individual and b is a set of individuals, then in type theory we cannot talk about the set {a,b}.
     From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.3)
     A reaction: Since we cheerfully talk about 'Cicero and other Romans', this sounds like a rather disasterous weakness.
Type theory has only finitely many items at each level, which is a problem for mathematics [George/Velleman]
     Full Idea: A problem with type theory is that there are only finitely many individuals, and finitely many sets of individuals, and so on. The hierarchy may be infinite, but each level is finite. Mathematics required an axiom asserting infinitely many individuals.
     From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.3)
     A reaction: Most accounts of mathematics founder when it comes to infinities. Perhaps we should just reject them?
Type theory prohibits (oddly) a set containing an individual and a set of individuals [George/Velleman]
     Full Idea: If a is an individual and b is a set of individuals, then in the theory of types we cannot talk about the set {a,b}, since it is not an individual or a set of individuals, ...but it is hard to see what harm can come from it.
     From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.3)
6. Mathematics / C. Sources of Mathematics / 8. Finitism
Bounded quantification is originally finitary, as conjunctions and disjunctions [George/Velleman]
     Full Idea: In the first instance all bounded quantifications are finitary, for they can be viewed as abbreviations for conjunctions and disjunctions.
     From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.6)
     A reaction: This strikes me as quite good support for finitism. The origin of a concept gives a good guide to what it really means (not a popular view, I admit). When Aristotle started quantifying, I suspect of he thought of lists, not totalities.
Much infinite mathematics can still be justified finitely [George/Velleman]
     Full Idea: It is possible to use finitary reasoning to justify a significant part of infinitary mathematics.
     From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.8)
     A reaction: This might save Hilbert's project, by gradually accepting into the fold all the parts which have been giving a finitist justification.
6. Mathematics / C. Sources of Mathematics / 10. Constructivism / b. Intuitionism
The intuitionists are the idealists of mathematics [George/Velleman]
     Full Idea: The intuitionists are the idealists of mathematics.
     From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.6)
Gödel's First Theorem suggests there are truths which are independent of proof [George/Velleman]
     Full Idea: For intuitionists, truth is not independent of proof, but this independence is precisely what seems to be suggested by Gödel's First Incompleteness Theorem.
     From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.8)
     A reaction: Thus Gödel was worse news for the Intuitionists than he was for Hilbert's Programme. Gödel himself responded by becoming a platonist about his unprovable truths.
7. Existence / C. Structure of Existence / 7. Abstract/Concrete / b. Levels of abstraction
A generative conception of abstracts proposes stages, based on concepts of previous objects [Fine,K]
     Full Idea: It is natural to have a generative conception of abstracts (like the iterative conception of sets). The abstracts are formed at stages, with the abstracts formed at any given stage being the abstracts of those concepts of objects formed at prior stages.
     From: Kit Fine (Replies on 'Limits of Abstraction' [2005], 1)
     A reaction: See 10567 for Fine's later modification. This may not guarantee 'levels', but it implies some sort of conceptual priority between abstract entities.
18. Thought / D. Concepts / 1. Concepts / a. Nature of concepts
Corresponding to every concept there is a class (some of them sets) [George/Velleman]
     Full Idea: Corresponding to every concept there is a class (some classes will be sets, the others proper classes).
     From: A.George / D.J.Velleman (Philosophies of Mathematics [2002], Ch.4)
18. Thought / E. Abstraction / 7. Abstracta by Equivalence
Abstraction-theoretic imperialists think Fregean abstracts can represent every mathematical object [Fine,K]
     Full Idea: Abstraction-theoretic imperialists think that it must be possible to represent every mathematical object as a Fregean abstract.
     From: Kit Fine (Replies on 'Limits of Abstraction' [2005], 1)
We can combine ZF sets with abstracts as urelements [Fine,K]
     Full Idea: I propose a unified theory which is a version of ZF or ZFC with urelements, where the urelements are taken to be the abstracts.
     From: Kit Fine (Replies on 'Limits of Abstraction' [2005], 1)
We can create objects from conditions, rather than from concepts [Fine,K]
     Full Idea: Instead of viewing the abstracts (or sums) as being generated from objects, via the concepts from which they are defined, we can take them to be generated from conditions. The number of the universe ∞ is the number of self-identical objects.
     From: Kit Fine (Replies on 'Limits of Abstraction' [2005], 1)
     A reaction: The point is that no particular object is now required to make the abstraction.
20. Action / B. Preliminaries of Action / 2. Willed Action / a. Will to Act
Libet says the processes initiated in the cortex can still be consciously changed [Libet, by Papineau]
     Full Idea: Libet himself points out that the conscious decisions still have the power to 'endorse' or 'cancel', so to speak, the processes initiated by the earlier cortical activity: no action will result if the action's execution is consciously countermanded.
     From: report of Benjamin Libet (Unconscious Cerebral Initiative [1985]) by David Papineau - Thinking about Consciousness 1.4
     A reaction: This is why Libet's findings do not imply 'epiphenomenalism'. It seems that part of a decisive action is non-conscious, undermining the all-or-nothing view of consciousness. Searle tries to smuggle in free will at this point (Idea 3817).
Libet found conscious choice 0.2 secs before movement, well after unconscious 'readiness potential' [Libet, by Lowe]
     Full Idea: Libet found that a subject's conscious choice to move was about a fifth of a second before movement, and thus later than the onset of the brain's so-called 'readiness potential', which seems to imply that unconscious processes initiates action.
     From: report of Benjamin Libet (Unconscious Cerebral Initiative [1985]) by E.J. Lowe - Introduction to the Philosophy of Mind Ch.9
     A reaction: Of great interest to philosophers! It seems to make conscious choices epiphenomenal. The key move, I think, is to give up the idea of consciousness as being all-or-nothing. My actions are still initiated by 'me', but 'me' shades off into unconsciousness.