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5. Theory of Logic / E. Structures of Logic / 8. Theories in Logic

17807	To study formal systems, look at the whole thing, and not just how it is constructed in steps [Curry]
	Full Idea: In the study of formal systems we do not confine ourselves to the derivation of elementary propositions step by step. Rather we take the system, defined by its primitive frame, as datum, and then study it by any means at our command.
	From: Haskell B. Curry (Remarks on the definition and nature of mathematics [1954], 'The formalist')
	A reaction: This is what may potentially lead to an essentialist view of such things. Focusing on bricks gives formalism, focusing on buildings gives essentialism.

6. Mathematics / C. Sources of Mathematics / 4. Mathematical Empiricism / c. Against mathematical empiricism

17806	It is untenable that mathematics is general physical truths, because it needs infinity [Curry]
	Full Idea: According to realism, mathematical propositions express the most general properties of our physical environment. This is the primitive view of mathematics, yet on account of the essential role played by infinity in mathematics, it is untenable today.
	From: Haskell B. Curry (Remarks on the definition and nature of mathematics [1954], 'The problem')
	A reaction: I resist this view, because Curry's view seems to imply a mad metaphysics. Hilbert resisted the role of the infinite in essential mathematics. If the physical world includes its possibilities, that might do the job. Hellman on structuralism?

6. Mathematics / C. Sources of Mathematics / 6. Logicism / d. Logicism critique

17808	Saying mathematics is logic is merely replacing one undefined term by another [Curry]
	Full Idea: To say that mathematics is logic is merely to replace one undefined term by another.
	From: Haskell B. Curry (Remarks on the definition and nature of mathematics [1954], 'Mathematics')

21. Aesthetics / C. Artistic Issues / 7. Art and Morality

468	Musical performance can reveal a range of virtues [Damon of Ath.]
	Full Idea: In singing and playing the lyre, a boy will be likely to reveal not only courage and moderation, but also justice.
	From: Damon (fragments/reports [c.460 BCE], B4), quoted by (who?) - where?

25. Social Practice / D. Justice / 1. Basis of justice

21229	If everyone is treated with equal injustice, at least that is fair [Morgenbesser]
	Full Idea: When the police hit me over the head at the demonstration, it was unjust but at least it was fair, because they hit everybody else over the head.
	From: Sidney Morgenbesser (talk [1970]), quoted by PG - Db (ideas)
	A reaction: An example of Morganbesser's famous wit, but this is the perfect and simplest riposte to Rawls's claim that justice is fairness. Horrific injustices can be distributed fairly, and often are, in prisons, schools, families and armies.