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1. Philosophy / D. Nature of Philosophy / 5. Aims of Philosophy / e. Philosophy as reason
Interesting philosophers hardly every give you explicitly valid arguments [Martin,M]
     Full Idea: Notice that very few philosophers - certainly almost none of the ones who are interesting to read - give you explicitly valid arguments.
     From: Michael Martin (Interview with Baggini and Stangroom [2001], p.134)
     A reaction: I never thought that was going to happen in philosophy. What I do get is, firstly, lots of interesting reasons for holding beliefs, and a conviction that good beliefs need good reasons, and, secondly, a really coherent view of the world.
2. Reason / E. Argument / 1. Argument
Valid arguments can be rejected by challenging the premises or presuppositions [Martin,M]
     Full Idea: Putting forward a valid argument isn't necessarily going to succeed in getting someone to see things your way, because if they don't accept the conclusion, they ask which premises they should reject, or whether an illegitimate assumption is being made.
     From: Michael Martin (Interview with Baggini and Stangroom [2001], p.136)
     A reaction: Valid arguments are still vital. It is just that good philosophers realise the problem noted here, and spend huge stretches of discussion on establishing acceptance of premises, and showing that there are no dodgy presuppositions.
12. Knowledge Sources / B. Perception / 1. Perception
An error theory of perception says our experience is not as it seems to be [Martin,M]
     Full Idea: You can end up with an error theory of perception, which says our experience is not as it seems to be, as bizarre as that might be.
     From: Michael Martin (Interview with Baggini and Stangroom [2001], p.140)
     A reaction: This is because of the clash between subjective and objective aspects of perception. It is an enticing proposal, just the sort of thing I pay philosophers to come up with. Given oddities like blindsight, I think it should be taken seriously.
13. Knowledge Criteria / E. Relativism / 2. Knowledge as Convention
By nature people are close to one another, but culture drives them apart [Hippias]
     Full Idea: I regard you all as relatives - by nature, not by convention. By nature like is akin to like, but convention is a tyrant over humankind and often constrains people to act contrary to nature.
     From: Hippias (fragments/reports [c.430 BCE]), quoted by Plato - Protagoras 337c8
22. Metaethics / B. Value / 2. Values / f. Altruism
The human heart has a natural concern for public good [Hume]
     Full Idea: While the human heart is compounded of the same elements as at present, it will never be wholly indifferent to public good.
     From: David Hume (Enquiry concerning Principles of Morals [1751], IX.I.222)
     A reaction: Even criminals can be patriotic. Why do people dump rubbish in beauty spots?
23. Ethics / A. Egoism / 1. Ethical Egoism
No moral theory is of any use if it doesn't serve the interests of the individual concerned [Hume]
     Full Idea: What theory of morals can ever serve any useful purpose, unless it can show, by a particular detail, that all the duties which it recommends, are also the true interest of each individual?
     From: David Hume (Enquiry concerning Principles of Morals [1751], IX.II.228)
     A reaction: It is hard to disagree, even if occasional cases of extreme altruism can occur.
23. Ethics / C. Virtue Theory / 1. Virtue Theory / a. Nature of virtue
Personal Merit is the possession of useful or agreeable mental qualities [Hume]
     Full Idea: Personal Merit consists altogether in the possession of mental qualities, useful or agreeable to the person himself or to others.
     From: David Hume (Enquiry concerning Principles of Morals [1751], IX.I.217)
     A reaction: If pleasure and utility can be intrinsically valuable, why can't virtue be as well?
23. Ethics / C. Virtue Theory / 3. Virtues / c. Justice
Justice only exists to support society [Hume]
     Full Idea: The necessity of justice to the support of society is the sole foundation of that virtue.
     From: David Hume (Enquiry concerning Principles of Morals [1751], III.II.163)
     A reaction: A sense of fairness precedes the building of a society, rather than arising out of it.
If we all naturally had everything we could ever desire, the virtue of justice would be irrelevant [Hume]
     Full Idea: Suppose nature has bestowed on humans such abundance of external conveniences that every individual is fully provided with whatever his appetites can want. …Justice, in that case, would be totally useless, and have no place in the catalogue of virtues.
     From: David Hume (Enquiry concerning Principles of Morals [1751], I.III.145)
     A reaction: [compressed] This seems to emphasise possessions and satisfaction of appetites, but presumably it would also need total security from other humans, which nature might struggle to provide. No sharing in this imagined world.
23. Ethics / D. Deontological Ethics / 2. Duty
Moral philosophy aims to show us our duty [Hume]
     Full Idea: The end of all moral speculations is to teach us our duty.
     From: David Hume (Enquiry concerning Principles of Morals [1751], I.136)
     A reaction: A surprising view from someone who thinks morals are basically sentiment.
23. Ethics / D. Deontological Ethics / 6. Motivation for Duty
Conclusions of reason do not affect our emotions or decisions to act [Hume]
     Full Idea: Inference and conclusions of the understanding have no hold of the affections nor set in motion the active powers of man.
     From: David Hume (Enquiry concerning Principles of Morals [1751], I.136)
     A reaction: I disagree. This is a typical empiricist separation of ideas from experience, of inner from outer, of analytic from synthetic.
23. Ethics / E. Utilitarianism / 1. Utilitarianism
Virtue just requires careful calculation and a preference for the greater happiness [Hume]
     Full Idea: The sole trouble which virtue demands is that of just calculation, and a steady preference for the greater happiness.
     From: David Hume (Enquiry concerning Principles of Morals [1751], IX.II.228)
     A reaction: Hume was the parent of utilitarianism. Can one person exhibit virtue on a desert island?
23. Ethics / E. Utilitarianism / 3. Motivation for Altruism
No one would cause pain to a complete stranger who happened to be passing [Hume]
     Full Idea: Would any man, who is walking along, tread as willingly on another's gouty toes, whom he has no quarrel with, as on the hard flint and pavement?
     From: David Hume (Enquiry concerning Principles of Morals [1751], V.II.183)
     A reaction: He is right that we empathise with the pain of others, and this is presumably one of the bases of morality. Animals lack sympathy for other animals.
Nature makes private affections come first, because public concerns are spread too thinly [Hume]
     Full Idea: It is wisely ordained by nature, that private connexions should commonly prevail over universal views and considerations; otherwise our affections and actions would be dissipated and lost, for want of a proper limited object.
     From: David Hume (Enquiry concerning Principles of Morals [1751], V.II.186n)
     A reaction: A very good objection to the excessively altruistic demands of utilitarianism.
24. Political Theory / B. Nature of a State / 1. Purpose of a State
The safety of the people is the supreme law [Hume]
     Full Idea: The safety of the people is the supreme law.
     From: David Hume (Enquiry concerning Principles of Morals [1751], III.II.157)
     A reaction: No political system ever seems able to disagree with this.
24. Political Theory / C. Ruling a State / 3. Government / a. Government
Society prefers helpful lies to harmful truth [Hume]
     Full Idea: Truths which are pernicious to society, if any such there be, will yield to errors which are salutary and advantageous.
     From: David Hume (Enquiry concerning Principles of Morals [1751], IX.II.228)
     A reaction: Hume probably meant religion. Two centuries later we have a greater appetite for uncomfortable truth.
25. Social Practice / B. Equalities / 4. Economic equality
If you equalise possessions, people's talents will make them unequal again [Hume]
     Full Idea: Render possessions ever so equal, men's different degrees of art, care, and industry will immediately break that equality.
     From: David Hume (Enquiry concerning Principles of Morals [1751], III.II.155)
     A reaction: This might not be so if there is a totalitarian restriction of economic freedom.