79 ideas
20262 | Don't use wisdom in order to become clever! [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: One ought not to use one's wisdom to become clever! | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], 308) | |
A reaction: And I would add 'don't think that being clever makes you wise'. Nietzsche, as always, is subtler than me (which is why I read him a lot). Presumably wisdom is broad, and cleverness is focused. Will becoming clever spoil someone's wisdom? |
20255 | Early 19th century German philosophers enjoyed concepts, rather than scientific explanations [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: Early 19th century German philosophers retreated to the first and oldest level of speculation, for, like the thinkers of dreamy ages, they found satisfaction in concepts rather than in explanations - they resuscitated a prescientific type of philosophy. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], 197) | |
A reaction: I have a suspicion that this may still apply to 'continental philosophy'. Personally I love explanations, which lead to understanding. But not all explanations are scientific. |
20260 | Carlyle spent his life vainly trying to make reason appear romantic [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: Thomas Carlyle spent a long life trying to make reason romantic to his fellow Englishmen: to no avail! | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], 298) | |
A reaction: An interesting gloss on the shift from the Enlightenment to the Romantic era. Presumably the idea of the 'genius' and the 'hero' are the means whereby Carlyle hoped to achive this. |
2930 | The main aim of philosophy must be to determine the order of rank among values [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: The future task of the philosophers is the solution of the problem of value, the determination of the order of rank among values. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (On the Genealogy of Morals [1887], I.§17 note) | |
A reaction: 'Determine' is presumably either a power struggle, or needs criteria by which to do the judging. |
20256 | What we think is totally dictated by the language available to express it [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: We have at every moment only that very thought for which we have ready to hand the words that are roughly capable of expressing it. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], 257) | |
A reaction: This is a highly influential idea, even if this expression of it is little known. Everyone who places language at the centre of philosophy believes something like this. It is a very striking thought, and must certainly contain considerable truth. |
20265 | The desire for a complete system requires making the weak parts look equal to the rest [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: There is playacting going on among systematisers: inasmuch as they want to make the system whole and round off the horizon around it, they must attempt to have their weaker qualities appear in the same style as their strong ones. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], 318) | |
A reaction: Filed under 'rationalism', because they are the notorious system builders, but the same tendency and problem can be seen to some extent among empiricsts who seek completeness. David Lewis, perhaps. |
20143 | Scientific knowledge is nothing without a prior philosophical 'faith' [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: Strictly speaking there is no knowledge [science] without presuppositions; a philosophy, a 'faith', must always be there first of all, for knowledge to win from it a direction, a meaning, a limit, a method, a right to exist. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (On the Genealogy of Morals [1887], III.§24) | |
A reaction: He sees philosophers as the creators of this faith, and laughs at anyone who tries to set philosophy on a scientific basis. |
23722 | Objectivity is not disinterestedness (impossible), but the ability to switch perspectives [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: 'Objectivity' should be understood not as 'contemplation without interest' (a non-concept and an absurdity), but as having in our power the ability to engage and disengage our 'pros' and 'cons'; we can use the difference in perspectives for knowledge. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (On the Genealogy of Morals [1887], III.§12) | |
A reaction: Note that he will use perspectives to achieve knowledge. The idea that Perspectivalism is mere relativism is labelled as 'extreme' in Idea 4486. He is right that objectivity is a mental capacity and achievement of individuals. |
4417 | Only that which has no history is definable [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: Only that which has no history is definable. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (On the Genealogy of Morals [1887], II.§13) | |
A reaction: Too subtle to evaluate! It sounds as if it could be right, that some things are definable, but when the accretions of human history are interwoven into an identity, we can forget it. |
20380 | Why should truth be omnipotent? It is enough that it is very powerful [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: I have no idea why the dictatorship and omnipotence of truth would be desirable; it's sufficient for me that it has great power. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], §507) | |
A reaction: I once heard a philosopher (at Essex University) assert that truth is the only value, which was interesting. Nietzsche actually wants to endorse the value of lies and deceptions, like the 'noble lie' in Plato's Republic. |
23715 | Psychologists should be brave and proud, and prefer truth to desires, even when it is ugly [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: I hope [psychologists] are actually brave, generous, proud animals, who know how to control their own pleasure and pain and are taught to sacrifice desirability to truth, even a bitter, ugly, unchristian, immoral truth - Because there are such truths. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (On the Genealogy of Morals [1887], I.§01) | |
A reaction: A nice expression of Nietzsche's values, which makes truth central, contrary to the widespread modern view that he was the high priest of relativism. If you think that, read him more carefully. |
20235 | Like animals, we seek truth because we want safety [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: Even that nose for truth, which is, at bottom, the nose for safety, human beings have in common with animals. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], 026) | |
A reaction: After Darwin, Nietzsche immediately saw that we need an account of humanity which is continuous with animals. The first step to physical security is ascertaining the physical facts. This idea rings true. |
11211 | If a sound conclusion comes from two errors that cancel out, the path of the argument must matter [Rumfitt] |
Full Idea: If a designated conclusion follows from the premisses, but the argument involves two howlers which cancel each other out, then the moral is that the path an argument takes from premisses to conclusion does matter to its logical evaluation. | |
From: Ian Rumfitt ("Yes" and "No" [2000], II) | |
A reaction: The drift of this is that our view of logic should be a little closer to the reasoning of ordinary language, and we should rely a little less on purely formal accounts. |
11210 | Standardly 'and' and 'but' are held to have the same sense by having the same truth table [Rumfitt] |
Full Idea: If 'and' and 'but' really are alike in sense, in what might that likeness consist? Some philosophers of classical logic will reply that they share a sense by virtue of sharing a truth table. | |
From: Ian Rumfitt ("Yes" and "No" [2000]) | |
A reaction: This is the standard view which Rumfitt sets out to challenge. |
11212 | The sense of a connective comes from primitively obvious rules of inference [Rumfitt] |
Full Idea: A connective will possess the sense that it has by virtue of its competent users' finding certain rules of inference involving it to be primitively obvious. | |
From: Ian Rumfitt ("Yes" and "No" [2000], III) | |
A reaction: Rumfitt cites Peacocke as endorsing this view, which characterises the logical connectives by their rules of usage rather than by their pure semantic value. |
20258 | Most people treat knowledge as a private possession [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: Most people take a thing they know under their protection, as if knowing it turned it into their possession. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], 285) | |
A reaction: A typically wicked and subtle remark. This presumably makes knowledge part of the will to power, with which Francis Bacon would presumably agree. |
4421 | Philosophers have never asked why there is a will to truth in the first place [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: Both the earliest and most recent philosophers are all oblivious of how much the will to truth itself first requires justification: here there is a gap in every philosophy - how did this come about? | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (On the Genealogy of Morals [1887], III.§24) | |
A reaction: This seems to me a meta-philosophical question which will lead off into (quite interesting) cultural studies and (trite) evolutionary theory. Truth isn't a value, it is the biological function of brains. |
23719 | Forgetfulness is a strong positive ability, not mental laziness [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: Forgetfulness is not just a vis inertiae, as superficial people believe, but is rather an active ability to suppress, positive in the strongest sense of the word. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (On the Genealogy of Morals [1887], II.§01) | |
A reaction: It is unimpressive when people remember small slights and grievances for a long time - and even being owed small sums - so the ability to forget such things is admirable. But wilfully forgetting some things is obviously shameful. |
20250 | We may be unable to remember, but we may never actually forget [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: It has yet to be proven that there is such a thing as forgetting; all we know is that the act of remembering is not within our power. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], 126) | |
A reaction: There is some evidence for this. We forget innumerable people, but then find that we recognise them if we meet them many years later. Anecdotes report very ancient memories suddenly surfacing. |
4420 | There is only 'perspective' seeing and knowing, and so the best objectivity is multiple points of view [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: There is only a perspective seeing, only a perspective "knowing", and the more different eyes we can use to observe one thing, the more complete will our "concept" of this thing, our "objectivity", be. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (On the Genealogy of Morals [1887], III.§12) | |
A reaction: A very perceptive statement of the most plausible and sophisticated version of relativism. It is hard to see how we could distinguish multiple viewpoints from pure objectivity. |
20270 | There is no one scientific method; we must try many approaches, and many emotions [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: There is no one and only scientific method that leads to knowledge. We must proceed experimentally with things, be sometimes angry, sometimes affectionate towards them, and allow justice, passion, and coldness to follow one upon another. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], 432) | |
A reaction: Alexander Bird says the same thing in our time. I agree, but I think there is a core of controlled conditions and peer review. |
20131 | We can cultivate our drives, of anger, pity, curiosity, vanity, like a gardener, with good or bad taste [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: One can dispose of one's drives like a gardener and, though few know it, cultivate the shoots of anger, pity, curiosity, vanity as productively and profitably as a beautiful fruit tree on a trellis; one can do it with the good or bad taste of a gardener. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], 560) | |
A reaction: This sort of existentialism I find very appealing. You take what you are given, the cards you are dealt, and try to make something nice out of it. This is quite different from the crazy freedom of later existentialists. |
20242 | Things are the boundaries of humanity, so all things must be known, for self-knowledge [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: Only when the human being has finally attained knowledge of all things will he have known himself. For things are merely the boundaries of the human being. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], 048) | |
A reaction: This seems to be a rather externalist view of the mind. If philosophy aims to disentangle mind from world then good knowledge of the world seems to be required. |
20249 | Our knowledge of the many drives that constitute us is hopelessly incomplete [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: No matter how hard a person struggles for self-knowledge, nothing can be more incomplete than the image of all the drives taken together than constitute his being. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], 119) | |
A reaction: This gives the concept of personal identity that arises from the (later) doctrine of the 'will to power'. It is a bundle view of the self, but a bundle of drives rather than of percepts and mental events. His view is close to Hume's. |
4414 | Philosophers invented "free will" so that our virtues would be permanently interesting to the gods [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: The philosophers invented "free will" - absolute human spontaneity in good and evil - to furnish a right to the idea that the interest of the gods in man, in human virtue, could never be exhausted. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (On the Genealogy of Morals [1887], II.§07) | |
A reaction: Wonderfully outrageous suggestion! If we had true metaphysical 'absolute' free will, we would be much more interesting, and have a much higher status in the cosmos. Nietzsche is probably right. |
20231 | People used to think that outcomes were from God, rather than consequences of acts [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: People used to believe that the outcome of an action was not a consequence, but an independent, supplemental ingredient, namely God's. Is a greater confusion conceivable? | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], 012) | |
A reaction: Not sure how well documented or accurate this is, but Nietzsche was a great scholar, and it would explain the fatalism that runs through many older forms of society. |
4419 | People who think in words are orators rather than thinkers, and think about facts instead of thinking facts [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: Whoever thinks in words thinks as an orator and not as a thinker (it shows that he does not think facts, but only in relation to facts). | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (On the Genealogy of Morals [1887], III.§08) | |
A reaction: Good. It is certainly not true that we have to think in words, or else animals wouldn't think. Good thinking should focus on reality, and be too fast for words to keep up. |
20266 | It is essential that wise people learn to express their wisdom, possibly even as foolishness [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: It is not yet enough to prove a thing, one must seduce people to accept it or raise them up to it. That is why a knowledgeable person ought to learn to speak his wisdom: and often in such a way that it sounds like foolishness. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], 330) | |
A reaction: Kant comes to mind. He has needed endless exegesis by people who write better than him. Have there been even greater philosophers who couldn't express their wisdom at all? Cratylus, perhaps! |
11214 | We learn 'not' along with affirmation, by learning to either affirm or deny a sentence [Rumfitt] |
Full Idea: The standard view is that affirming not-A is more complex than affirming the atomic sentence A itself, with the latter determining its sense. But we could learn 'not' directly, by learning at once how to either affirm A or reject A. | |
From: Ian Rumfitt ("Yes" and "No" [2000], IV) | |
A reaction: [compressed] This seems fairly anti-Fregean in spirit, because it looks at the psychology of how we learn 'not' as a way of clarifying what we mean by it, rather than just looking at its logical behaviour (and thus giving it a secondary role). |
4411 | It is a delusion to separate the man from the deed, like the flash from the lightning [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: Just as the popular mind separates the lightning from its flash and takes the latter for a 'action', so they separate strength from expressions of strength, but there is no such substratum; the deed is everything. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (On the Genealogy of Morals [1887], I.§13) | |
A reaction: Of course, there is no reason why an analysis should not separate the doer and the deed (to explain, for example, a well-meaning fool), but it is a blunder to think of a human action as a merely physical event. |
20251 | Actions done for a purpose are least understood, because we complacently think it's obvious [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: Of all actions, the ones least understood are those undertaken for a purpose, no doubt because they have always passed for the most intelligible and are to our way of thinking the most commonplace. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], 127) | |
A reaction: You feel that Nietzsche is right about our stupendous lack of of self-knowledge, but then a bit of a panic ensues, because it is not clear what you are supposed to do about anything, particularly if we don't know why anyone else does anything. |
20271 | Beauty in art is the imitation of happiness [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: By beauty in art one always understands imitation of happiness. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], 433) | |
A reaction: I'm not sure how one goes about imitating happiness. One can replicate things that make us happy, like a nice landscape. But some beauty in art is also novel, and produces a new sort of happiness. Kandinsky. |
20230 | The very idea of a critique of morality is regarded as immoral! [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: Even to think of criticising morality, to consider morality as a problem, as problematic: what? was that not - is that not - immoral? | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], Pref 3) | |
A reaction: Offering critiques of the value of morality and of truth are perhaps Nietzsche's greatest achievements. |
3793 | We must question the very value of moral values [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: We need a critique of moral values; the value of these values themselves must just be called in question. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (On the Genealogy of Morals [1887], Pre f§3) | |
A reaction: But we must start somewhere with values, to avoid an infinite regress. |
20234 | Morality prevents us from developing better customs [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: Morality acts to prevent the rise of new and better mores: it stupefies. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], 019) | |
A reaction: Note that he wants 'better' customs, and not just different ones. So the deep question concerns the criteria for why some customs are better. He seems to want us to fulfil our natures more completely. Arts, sciences, great deeds... |
4408 | The concept of 'good' was created by aristocrats to describe their own actions [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: The judgement 'good' did not first originate with those to whom goodness was shown! Rather it was the 'good' themselves, that is to say the noble, powerful, high-stationed and high-minded who established themselves and their action as good. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (On the Genealogy of Morals [1887], I.§02) | |
A reaction: This may be right, but not very profound. Virtually all concepts are created by the most educated classes. The first recipient of charity may not have had the concept, but they would have been gobsmacked by the novelty. |
23716 | A strong rounded person soon forgets enemies, misfortunes, and even misdeeds [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: To be unable to take his enemies, his misfortunes and even his misdeeds seriously for long - that is the sign of strong, rounded natures with a superabundance of power. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (On the Genealogy of Morals [1887], I.§10) | |
A reaction: An aspect of the 'higher man' that I don't recall being mentioned elsewhere. I basically approve of this, if it means not holding grudges, and living for the future rather than for the past. |
20129 | All animals strive for the ideal conditions to express their power, and hate any hindrances [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: Every animal instinctively strives for an optimum of favourable conditions under which it can expend all its strength and achieve its maximal feeling of power; every animal abhors ...every hindrance that obstructs this path to the optimum. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (On the Genealogy of Morals [1887], III.§07) | |
A reaction: This became the lynchpin of Nietzsche's account of the source of values. It is a highly naturalistic view, fitting it into evolutionary theory (thought running deeper than that), so I have a lot of sympathy with the view. |
20237 | Moral feelings are entirely different from the moral concepts used to judge actions [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: The history of moral feeling is completely different from the history of moral concepts. The former are powerful before, the latter especially after an action in view of the compulsion to pronounce upon it. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], 034) | |
A reaction: I think he places the feelings in our animal origins, and the concepts in rather unnatural cultures. |
20238 | Treating morality as feelings is just obeying your ancestors [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: To trust your feelings - that means obeying your grandfather and your grandmother and their grandparents more than the gods in us: our reason and our experience. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], 035) | |
A reaction: He says prior to this that feelings are just an inheritance, not our true natures. Stoics said 'live according to nature', by which they meant 'live by reason', because that is our true nature. |
20243 | Human beings are not majestic, either through divine origins, or through grand aims [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: Formerly one tried to get a feel for the majesty of human beings by pointing backward toward their divine descent: this has now become a forbidden path. ...So now the path humanity pursues is proof of its majesty. Alas, this too leads nowhere! | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], 049) | |
A reaction: I love the breadth of Nietzsche's vision, both across history, and in the great scheme. He goes on to say that we are no more a 'higher order' than ants and earwigs. |
20268 | Most dying people have probably lost more important things than what they are about to lose [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: The act of dying is not as significant as the universal awe of it would have us believe, and the dying person has probably lost more important things in life than he is now about to lose. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], 349) | |
A reaction: He says this is a thought about death which we tend to repress. It would depend on the life, I should think, but it is probably right in very many cases. |
20252 | Marriage is too serious to be permitted for people in love! [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: Lovers' vows ought to be publicly declared invalid and marriage denied the pair: and indeed precisely because one ought to take marriage unspeakably more seriously! | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], 151) | |
A reaction: Sounds like the traditional aristocratic attitude to marriage, so the idea suits Nietzsche. I think that nowadays it is much wiser to be base proposal of marriage on friendship than on love. You are choosing a life-long friend, not someone to adore. |
20236 | Marriage upholds the idea that love, though a passion, can endure [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: The institution of marriage stubbornly upholds the belief that love, though a passion, is, as such, capable of duration. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], 027) | |
A reaction: No wonder Nietzsche never married. Women must have been terrified of him, when he came out with this sort of remark. I doubt whether many couples who are celebrating their golden wedding would agree with him. [1/5/2017] |
20263 | Fear reveals the natures of other people much more clearly than love does [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: Fear has furthered the universal knowledge of humanity more than love, for fear wants to discern who the other person is, what he can do and what he wants. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], 309) | |
A reaction: Nietzsche had it in for love at this stage in his career. This remark strikes me as brilliantly accurate. |
20233 | Punishment has distorted the pure innocence of the contingency of outcomes [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: With this infamous art of interpreting the concept of punishment, people have robbed of its innocence the whole, pure contingency of events. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], 013) | |
A reaction: What a wonderfully subtle observation about moral luck! That whole problem is driven by the issue of whether the agent should be punished. When a chain of errors leads to disaster, we may see many innocent people doing a collective evil. |
20248 | People do nothing for their real ego, but only for a phantom ego created by other people [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: Whatever they say about their 'egotism', people nevertheless do nothing their whole life long for their ego, but instead for the phantom ego that has formed in the heads around them and been communicated to them. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], 105) | |
A reaction: Nietzsche has a vision of true devotion to the ego as healthy, and so (I would say) does Aristotle, though the two might disagree about the details. I want to live among people who work on themselves, not those who always sacrifice themselves. |
4409 | Only the decline of aristocratic morality led to concerns about "egoism" [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: It was only when aristocratic value judgements declined that the whole antithesis of "egoistic" and "unegoistic" obtruded itself more and more on the human conscience. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (On the Genealogy of Morals [1887], I.§02) | |
A reaction: But Aristotle, who is no aristocrat, has a balanced and sensible view of 'egoism', where it isn't the patronising arrogance that Nietzsche seems to like, but a proper concern with one's own character. |
3259 | Nietzsche rejects impersonal morality, and asserts the idea of living well [Nietzsche, by Nagel] |
Full Idea: Nietzsche's rejection of impersonal morality is an assertion of the dominance of the ideal of living well. | |
From: report of Friedrich Nietzsche (On the Genealogy of Morals [1887], I) by Thomas Nagel - The View from Nowhere X.2 |
4416 | Basic justice is the negotiation of agreement among equals, and the imposition of agreement [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: Justice on the elementary level is good will among parties of approximately equal power to come to terms with one another, and to compel parties of lesser power to reach a settlement among themselves. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (On the Genealogy of Morals [1887], II.§08) | |
A reaction: This pinpoints a key problem with the social contract as a moral theory - that it requires equals, and recognises only terror of superiors, and indifference to useless inferiors who have nothing to offer (paraplegics and animals). |
4418 | A masterful and violent person need have nothing to do with contracts [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: He who can command, he who is "master", he who is violent in act and bearing - what has he to do with contracts! | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (On the Genealogy of Morals [1887], II.§17) | |
A reaction: The persistent problem with social contract theory is that those much stronger or much weaker seem to have no interest in morality at all, and yet they can all have standards of behaviour. |
20246 | If you feel to others as they feel to themselves, you must hate a self-hater [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: Supposing we felt toward someone else as that person feels about himself, then we would have to hate him if he (like Pascal) found himself hateful. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], 063) | |
A reaction: And how does the Golden Rule work if the other people feel suicidal (as groups sometimes do)? |
20272 | Honesty is a new young virtue, and we can promote it, or not [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: Among neither the Socratic nor the Christian virtues does honesty appear: it is one of the youngest virtues, still quite immature. ...We can advance it or retard it, as we see fit. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], 456) | |
A reaction: I associate the virtue of honesty with the cult of sincerity of feelings which arose in the romantic movement. |
20240 | The Jews treated great anger as holy, and were in awe of those who expressed it [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: The Jews felt differently about wrath than we do and decreed it holy; in return, they, as a people, viewed the foreboding majesty of the individual with whom wrath showed itself connected, at a height at which a European is incapable of imagining. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], 038) | |
A reaction: If you thought wrath was really wonderful then presumably you would aspire to partake of it, but I see no signs of the Jews having been an especially wrathful people. It sounds like the tantrums of Tudor monarchs, which was their royal privilege. |
20244 | Christianity replaces rational philosophical virtues with great passions focused on God [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: Christianity disallows all moral value to the virtue of philosophers - the triumph of reason over affects - and demands that affects reveal themselves in splendour, as love of God, fear before God, fanatical faith in God, and blindest hope in God. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], 058) | |
A reaction: Faith, hope and charity are the three great Christian virtues that were added to the four cardinal virtues of the Greeks. |
20274 | The cardinal virtues want us to be honest, brave, magnanimous and polite [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: Honest towards ourselves and whatever else is our friend; courageous toward the enemy; magnanimous toward the defeated; polite - always. This is how the four cardinal virtues want us to be. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], 556) | |
A reaction: I take this to be Nietzsche genuinely asserting his four cardinal virtues, rather than being ironic. He certainly asserts politeness as the fourth virtue earlier in the book. Cf a different list in Idea 20382 |
20257 | Cool courage and feverish bravery have one name, but are two very different virtues [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: Courage as cold bravery and imperturbability, and courage as feverish, half-blind bravura - one calls both of these things by the same name! How different are the cold virtues from the warm ones! | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], 277) | |
A reaction: How few philosophers are capable of making a subtle but accurate observation like this! How many other virtues should be subdivided? |
4407 | Plato, Spinoza and Kant are very different, but united in their low estimation of pity [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: Plato, Spinoza, La Rochefoucauld, and Kant are four spirits very different from one another, but united in one thing: their low estimation of pity. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (On the Genealogy of Morals [1887], Pref §5) | |
A reaction: Plato is no surprise, as virtually no Greeks value pity. Spinoza and Kant are interesting. Presumably Kant's 'contractualism' places respect far above pity, and is theoretical neglect of animals would fit. Remember Nietzsche embraced a horse in Turin. |
20259 | Teach youth to respect people who differ with them, not people who agree with them [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: The surest way to ruin a youth is by teaching him to respect those who think like him more highly than those who think differently. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], 297) | |
A reaction: On the whole I prefer to read the philosophers who seem to be on my side, because I am trying to strengthen my explanation of the world, and opponents aren't much help. I do read opponents, if they explicitly challenge what I defend. |
20267 | Seeing duty as a burden makes it a bit cruel, and it can thus never become a habit [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: To require that duty always be somewhat burdensome - as Kant does - amounts to acquiring that it never become habit and custom: in this requirement there linger a tiny remnant of ascetic cruelty. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], 339) | |
A reaction: Habit, of course, is the ideal of Aristotelian virtue. |
4415 | Guilt and obligation originated in the relationship of buying and selling, credit and debt [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: The feeling of guilt, of personal obligation, had its origin in the oldest and most primitive personal relationship, that between buyer and seller, between creditor and debtor. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (On the Genealogy of Morals [1887], II.§08) | |
A reaction: In other words, lofty Kantian ideals started life in the grubby world of the Hobbesian social contract, and self-seeking has been disguised by idealism. Too harsh on Kant, who explains why contracts have force, not just convenience. |
23718 | If we say birds of prey could become lambs, that makes them responsible for being birds of prey [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: Scientists …do not defend any belief more strongly than that the strong are free to be weak, and the birds of prey are free to be lambs: - in this way, they gain the right to make the birds of prey responsible for being birds of prey. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (On the Genealogy of Morals [1887], I.§13) | |
A reaction: This is a flat rejection of the Sartrean idea that we can what sort of person we want to be. He cares about birds of prey, but also lambs can't become eagles. I would say that adolescents have a reasonable degree of choice about what they will become. |
23717 | Modern nihilism is now feeling tired of mankind [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: The sight of man now makes us tired - what is nihilism today if it is not that? …We are tired of man… | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (On the Genealogy of Morals [1887], I.§12) | |
A reaction: That is close to Hume's nihilist, who would destroy the world to protect his own finger from a scratch. The actor George Sanders committed suicide because he was bored. Don't ever think that Nietzsche was a nihilist, just because he mentions it a lot! |
20275 | Most people think they are already complete, but we can cultivate ourselves [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: We are free to handle and cultivate our drives like a gardener ...but how many people know we are free to do this? Don't most people believe in themselves as completed, full grown up facts? | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], 560) | |
A reaction: I see Nietzsche as an existentialist philosopher. He is much more than that, but this quotation endorses what I take to be the central idea of existentialism. |
23721 | Old tribes always felt an obligation to the earlier generations, and the founders [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: Within the original tribal association the living generation always acknowledged a legal obligation towards the earlier generation, and in particular towards the earliest. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (On the Genealogy of Morals [1887], II.§19) | |
A reaction: This is still a factor in modern politics, though the people remember are either military heroes or the great figures of a particular political movement. We remember the big artists and personalities, but don't feel obligated to them. |
20142 | The state begins with brutal conquest of a disorganised people, not with a 'contract' [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: Some pack of blond beasts of prey, on a war footing, unscrupulously lays its dreadful paws on a populace which is shapeless. In this way the 'state' began on earth. I think I have dispensed with the fantasy which has it begin with a 'contract'. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (On the Genealogy of Morals [1887], II.§17) | |
A reaction: [compressed] It is certainly likely that a tribe which got itself well organised and focused on some end would achieve total dominance over other tribes that just focus on food. |
20229 | No authority ever willingly accepts criticism [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: As long as the world has existed, no authority has ever willingly permitted itself to become the object of critique. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], Pref 3) | |
A reaction: A political remark, but it leads into speaking of conventional morality as just such an authority. Nowadays teachers have feedback forms, and leaders have to endure party conferences. But on the whole it remains true. |
20254 | People govern for the pleasure of it, or just to avoid being governed [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: Some govern out of pleasure in governing, others in order not to be governed - to the latter, governing is merely the lesser of two evils. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], 181) | |
A reaction: Our current society is full of self-employed people whose major motivation is to avoid being employees. |
20273 | The French Revolution gave trusting Europe the false delusion of instant recovery [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: The 'Great Revolution' [in France] was nothing more than a pathetic and bloody quackery, which understood how, through sudden crises, to supply a trusting Europe with the sudden hope of recovery. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], 534) | |
A reaction: Whenever a new leader comes into power there is the same honeymoon period, where dreams of salvation have a moment in the sun. |
20232 | Get rid of the idea of punishment! It is a noxious weed! [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: People of diligence and goodwill, lend a hand in the one work of eradicating from the face of the earth the concept of punishment, which has overrun the whole world! There is no more noxious weed! | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], 013) | |
A reaction: Nietzsche never tried his hand at school teaching or parenting or running a youth club. But I still love this idea. In really good families I suspect that punishment is almost unknown. |
23720 | Punishment makes people harder, more alienated, and hostile [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: On the whole, punishment makes men harder and colder, it concentrates, it sharpens the feeling of alienation; it strengthens the power to resist. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (On the Genealogy of Morals [1887], II.§14) | |
A reaction: If the school system involves routine harsh punishments, that means that the whole population ends up in that state. I would have thought that this was an obvious truth about punishment, but no one seems to want to face up to it. |
20253 | Modern wars arise from the study of history [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: The great wars of our day are the effects of the study of history. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], 180) | |
A reaction: The Prussians reacted to Napoleon. The Nazis reacted to Versailles. But now the study of history reveals to us dreadful wars based on simplistic accounts of history. Be wise about history, not ignorant of it. |
20261 | History does not concern what really happened, but supposed events, which have all the influence [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: The writer of history deals not with what really happened but merely with supposed events, for only the latter have had an effect. ...All historians speak of things that have never existed except in imagination. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], 307) | |
A reaction: This seems blatantly true, and is most obvious in the case of forged documents which have been hugely influential. Erroneous conspiracy theories are another example. (Note: only scorn conspiracy theories if you think conspiracies never happen!). |
20241 | Enquirers think finding our origin is salvation, but it turns out to be dull [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: Investigators of knowledge ...have regularly presupposed that the salvation of humanity depended on insight into the origin of things. ...but with insight into origin comes the increasing insignificance of origin. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], 044) | |
A reaction: This sounds like the etymological fallacy, of thinking that the origin of a word gives you a true grasp of its meaning. |
20245 | Christianity hoped for a short cut to perfection, that skipped the hard labour of morality [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: You can say what you like: Christianity wanted to liberate humanity from the burden of the demands of morality by pointing out a shorter way to perfection, or so it believed. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], 059) | |
A reaction: This conjures up Graham Greene's Catholic heroes, who wallow in sin, but hope for salvation at the last moment. |
20247 | Christianity was successful because of its heathen rituals [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: Not what is Christian in it, rather the universal heathenism of its rituals is the reason for the propagation of this world religion. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], 070) | |
A reaction: I'm afraid I think this is right. I grew up bewildered by the lack of content in the rituals of church services. Even austere protestants manage to sing and recite. Maybe philosophies should do this - wanted: new Cartesian and Kantian rituals! |
4410 | The truly great haters in world history have always been priests [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: The truly great haters in world history have always been priests. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (On the Genealogy of Morals [1887], I.§07) | |
A reaction: Wicked, but it has a lot of truth. Priests have a lot to defend, and a lot of reasons for feeling threatened. |
20269 | 'I believe because it is absurd' - but how about 'I believe because I am absurd' [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: Many people have achieved the humility that says: 'I believe because it is absurd', and have sacrificed their reason for it. But no one, as far as I know, has achieved the humility, which is only one step further, of 'I believe because I am absurd'. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], 417) | |
A reaction: Nietzsche gives the Latin: 'credo quia absurdum est' (Tertullian), and 'credo quia absurdus sum'. It may look like an insulting remark from Nietzsche, but it is actually in tune with the spirit of the original. |
20264 | The easy and graceful aspects of a person are called 'soul', and inner awkwardness is called 'soulless' [Nietzsche] |
Full Idea: The sum of inner movements that are easy for a person and that he consequently performs happily and with grace is called his 'soul'; - if inner movements obviously cause him difficulty and effort, he is considered soulless. | |
From: Friedrich Nietzsche (Dawn (Daybreak) [1881], 311) | |
A reaction: 'Soulless' is usually applied to people deficient in some sort of empathic feeling, or with an inability to recognise grandeur. It seems to imply that people who experience inner torture are soulless, but romantics see them as very soulful. |