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6. Mathematics / B. Foundations for Mathematics / 5. Definitions of Number / g. Von Neumann numbers

[Von Neumann's view of numbers as expanding sets]

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For Von Neumann the successor of n is n U {n} (rather than {n}) [Neumann, by Maddy]
     Full Idea: For Von Neumann the successor of n is n U {n} (rather than Zermelo's successor, which is {n}).
     From: report of John von Neumann (On the Introduction of Transfinite Numbers [1923]) by Penelope Maddy - Naturalism in Mathematics I.2 n8
Von Neumann numbers are preferred, because they continue into the transfinite [Maddy on Neumann]
     Full Idea: Von Neumann's version of the natural numbers is in fact preferred because it carries over directly to the transfinite ordinals.
     From: comment on John von Neumann (On the Introduction of Transfinite Numbers [1923]) by Penelope Maddy - Naturalism in Mathematics I.2 n9
Each Von Neumann ordinal number is the set of its predecessors [Neumann, by Lavine]
     Full Idea: Each Von Neumann ordinal number is the set of its predecessors. ...He had shown how to introduce ordinal numbers as sets, making it possible to use them without leaving the domain of sets.
     From: report of John von Neumann (On the Introduction of Transfinite Numbers [1923]) by Shaughan Lavine - Understanding the Infinite V.3
Von Neumann numbers are helpful, but don't correctly describe numbers [Read]
     Full Idea: The Von Neumann numbers have a structural isomorphism to the natural numbers - each number is the set of all its predecessors, so 2 is the set of 0 and 1. This helps proofs, but is unacceptable. 2 is not a set with two members, or a member of 3.
     From: Stephen Read (Thinking About Logic [1995], Ch.4)