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26. Natural Theory / A. Speculations on Nature / 6. Early Matter Theories / a. Greek matter

[early Greek views on basic solid stuff]

12 ideas
Mind creates the world from a mixture of pure substances [Anaxagoras, by ]
     Full Idea: Anaxagoras assumed that Mind, which is God, is the efficient principle, and the multi-mixture of homoeomeries is the material principle.
     From: report of Anaxagoras (fragments/reports [c.460 BCE]) by - I.6
     A reaction: The choice of homoeomeries as basic is a good one. They are much better candidates than materials which are made of parts of a quite different kind, where the parts are a better candidate than the whole.
Matter is the limit of points and lines, and must always have quality and form [Aristotle]
     Full Idea: The matter is that of which points and lines are limits, and it is something that can never exist without quality and without form.
     From: Aristotle (Coming-to-be and Passing-away (Gen/Corr) [c.335 BCE], 320b16)
     A reaction: There seems to be a contradiction here somewhere. Matter has to be substantial enough to have a form, and yet seems to be the collective 'limit' of the points and lines. I wonder what 'limit' is translating? Sounds a bit too modern.
The primary matter is the substratum for the contraries like hot and cold [Aristotle]
     Full Idea: We must reckon as an 'orginal source' and as 'primary' the matter which underlies, though it is inseparable from the contrary qualities: for 'the hot' is not matter for 'the cold' nor 'cold' for 'hot', but the substratum is matter for them both.
     From: Aristotle (Coming-to-be and Passing-away (Gen/Corr) [c.335 BCE], 329a30)
     A reaction: A much discussed passage.
Matter is neither a particular thing nor a member of a determinate category [Aristotle]
     Full Idea: By matter I mean that which in itself is neither a particular thing nor a certain quantity nor assigned to any other of the categories by which being is determined.
     From: Aristotle (Metaphysics [c.324 BCE], 1029a20)
     A reaction: This seems to be the classic definition of matter in Aristotle. He doesn't say here that matter has an inferior mode of existence, but elsewhere he says that it is potential rather than actual, which seems to confiscate its passport.
Matter is perceptible (like bronze) or intelligible (like mathematical objects) [Aristotle]
     Full Idea: Matter divides into that which is perceptible and that which is intelligible: the former comprises bronze, wood and all process-apt matter, the latter matter is present in the perceptibles but not qua perceptible, e.g. the mathematicals.
     From: Aristotle (Metaphysics [c.324 BCE], 1036a09)
Substance must exist, because something must endure during change between opposites [Aristotle]
     Full Idea: There can be no doubt that matter is a substance. Consider all changes between opposites. In all of them there is something that underlies the change.
     From: Aristotle (Metaphysics [c.324 BCE], 1042a30)
Aristotle had a hierarchical conception of matter [Aristotle, by Fine,K]
     Full Idea: Aristotle had a hierarchical conception of matter; what is matter may itself have matter.
     From: report of Aristotle (Metaphysics [c.324 BCE], matter) by Kit Fine - Aristotle on Matter §1
     A reaction: This shows that Aristotle's 'hule' is not like our word 'matter' so a real effort must be made to grasp how he is conceptualising it.
Aristotle says matter is a lesser substance, rather than wholly denying that it is a substance [Aristotle, by Kung]
     Full Idea: Metaphysics Z.3, often read as denying that matter is a substance, can more plausibly be interpreted as claiming that matter cannot be the only and not a first-rank substance.
     From: report of Aristotle (Metaphysics [c.324 BCE], matter) by Joan Kung - Aristotle on Essence and Explanation VI
     A reaction: This certainly sounds a more plausible view, and in modern understanding some kind of elemental matter is our best candidate for what could be meant by 'substance'. Perhaps the 'fields' of modern physics play that role.
Matter desires form, as female desires male, and ugliness desires beauty [Aristotle]
     Full Idea: What desires the form is matter, as the female the male, and the ugly the beautiful.
     From: Aristotle (Physics [c.337 BCE], 192a22)
     A reaction: Wow! This is a very active view of matter. The drive in nature (the 'conatus' in Spinoza) can be discerned in all sorts of levels. It is Nietzsche's will to power. It seems to be the opposite of entropy.
Aristotle's matter can become any other kind of matter [Aristotle, by Wiggins]
     Full Idea: Aristotle's conception of matter permits any kind of matter to become any other kind of matter.
     From: report of Aristotle (works [c.330 BCE]) by David Wiggins - Substance 4.11.2
     A reaction: This is obviously crucial background information when we read Aristotle on matter. Our 92+ elements, and fixed fundamental particles, gives a quite different picture. Aristotle would discuss form and matter quite differently now.
Stripped and passive matter is just a human invention [Bacon]
     Full Idea: Stripped and passive matter seems nothing more than an invention of the human mind.
     From: Francis Bacon (Philosophical Studies 1611-19 [1617], p.206), quoted by Robert Pasnau - Metaphysical Themes 1274-1671 07.2
     A reaction: Bacon seems to me to get too little credit in the history of philosophy, because he is just seen as a progenitor of science. His modern views predate most radical 17th C thought by 20 years.
The components of abstract definitions could play the same role as matter for physical objects [Fine,K]
     Full Idea: If one considers Aristotle's standard example of a definition, then it is plausible that its defining terms ('plane figure' in the case of a circle) should be constitutive of it in the same general way as physical matter constitutes something physical.
     From: Kit Fine (Aristotle on Matter [1992], 1)
     A reaction: It strikes me that an appropriate translation for the Greek 'hule' might be the English 'ingredients', since Fine seems to be right about the broad application of hule in Aristotle.