structure for 'Metaethics'    |     alphabetical list of themes    |     expand these ideas

22. Metaethics / A. Ethical Ends / 6. Pleasure / b. Value of pleasure

[how important is pleasure in life?]

36 ideas
The wise prefer good to pleasure; the foolish are drawn to pleasure by desire [Anon (Upan)]
If happiness is bodily pleasure, then oxen are happy when they have vetch to eat [Heraclitus]
Only accept beneficial pleasures [Democritus]
It is as brave to master pleasure as to overcome the enemy [Democritus]
I would rather go mad than experience pleasure [Antisthenes (I)]
If happiness is the satisfaction of desires, then a life of scratching itches should be happiness [Plato]
In slaking our thirst the goodness of the action and the pleasure are clearly separate [Plato]
It would be strange if the gods rewarded those who experienced the most pleasure in life [Plato]
The conquest of pleasure is the noblest victory of all [Plato]
Most pleasure is release from pain, and is therefore not worthwhile [Plato]
Reason, memory, truth and wisdom are far better than pleasure, for those who can attain them [Plato]
Pleasure is certainly very pleasant, but it doesn't follow that all pleasures are good [Plato]
Would you prefer a life of pleasure without reason, or one of reason without pleasure? [Plato]
The good must be sufficient and perfect, and neither intellect nor pleasure are that [Plato]
It is unlikely that the gods feel either pleasure or pain [Plato]
Some pleasures are not good, and some pains are not evil [Plato]
People tend only to disapprove of pleasure if it leads to pain, or prevents future pleasure [Plato]
Philosophers are concerned with totally non-physical pleasures [Plato]
Even people who think pleasure is the good admit that there are bad pleasures [Plato]
Feeling inappropriate pleasure or pain affects conduct, and is central to morality [Aristotle]
If we criticise bodily pleasures as licentious and bad, why do we consider their opposite, pain, to be bad? [Aristotle]
Nobody would choose the mentality of a child, even if they had the greatest childish pleasures [Aristotle]
There are many things we would want even if they brought no pleasure [Aristotle]
It is right to pursue pleasure, because it enhances life, and life is a thing to choose [Aristotle]
If happiness were mere amusement it wouldn't be worth a lifetime's effort [Aristotle]
We only need pleasure when we have the pain of desire [Epicurus]
Pleasure is the first good in life [Epicurus]
Fine things are worthless if they give no pleasure [Epicurus]
Pleasure is the chief good because it is the most natural, especially for animals [Diog. Laertius on Epicurus]
Pleasure is not the good, because there are disgraceful pleasures [Diog. Laertius on Chrysippus]
Justice can be preserved if pleasure is a good, but not if it is the goal [Plutarch on Chrysippus]
Justice has no virtue opposed to it, but pleasure has temperance opposed to it [Aurelius]
What will you think of pleasures when you no longer enjoy them? [Joubert]
We clearly value good character or understanding, as well as pleasure [Ross]
No one thinks it doesn't matter whether pleasure is virtuously or viciously acquired [Ross]
Virtue is superior to pleasure, as pleasure is never a duty, but goodness is [Ross]